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Originally there were 19 posts. Then 4 disappeared. Now 3 have returned. Oh Discordia! What is going on with this blog?

Well, as I have said before, my take on LISK.com and the motives of those commenting on it changed daily. This is because of the constant comments left here and on MM7’s blog. Then I tried to get some answers through emails and Facebook… now it seems like I change my mind hourly. Because of this I started deleting some things, and then I was ready to stop the blog all together. I’ll try to explain better. I emphasise on TRY.

The reason I started this blog was to show how the stuff being written on LISK.com and MM7’s “Catching LISK” was more than sleuthing… more than disagreements… more than trolls. What was going on, was an elaborate game, being played by more than one player. And in simplest terms I felt I had proven that to myself and probably would never be able to prove it to anyone on here, so what was the point, might as well end this thing. And if you read the last 2 blogs you could see I was definitely heading for an ending to this thing. Then I watched the movie “Seven Psychopaths“, if you haven’t seen it check it out, it’s pretty good. Without giving away to much of the movie, the 7 psychopaths mentioned in the title are brought together randomly to fit the story, some are connected, some come in by chance, and some might not even be real.

Any ways, this started me thinking about all the comments being left, before my blog I kinda thought most of the games were being played by 1 or 2 people or at least people who were connected to each other or to this case. And I still believe this to be true, but then I started realizing that there were some random trolls/sleuthers playing their part in this game. And the movie started me wondering maybe some random psychopaths are involved as well.

What I mean is this, there has been lots of comments that the LISK is amongst these screen names. That the killer or killers frequents these sites, maybe even creates some of them, to be involved in the sleuthing as well as stalk and mess with those out there who might be too close in their sleuthing. And as crazy as this sounds I do think this is impossible. But the movie got me thinking, that sites like these can attract others… random psychos. That was even easier to believe really.

So I admit I got a little freaked out… not for me, but for those involved that my blogs might endanger. I mean there was a lot of BS (that is not my POI)  maybe coming from sock-puppets, or trolls, or LISK, or just some random crazy person lurking in. I did not want my meddling blog to be the reason some crazy person went over the edge.

So I started removing posts. I decided I was done with this game and no ending was needed for the blog.

But the comments kept coming, so I made a fake Facebook and dug deeper.

I made a  Facebook because I wanted to communicate with the different Facebook pages involved with this.  The first Facebook person to accept my “Friend Request” did not go so well.  I said who I was and why I was bothering them on Facebook (I really did have a good reason) and got no reply, but the next day this Facebook Page was gone. Wow, I looked like a stalker.

So I decided again, I’m done with this, this just really has nothing to do with me. But the comments kept coming. Why do you come here when I accuse so many of you of playing games and have stated many times that neither side, or actually NONE of the sides are playing fair, nor being totally truthful.  But you did, so I  got more involved.

I have sent out emails, some returned some not. Most who I corresponded with had close to the same thing to say. But there was some differences, and there was still some dishonesty about who is who going on. So I went back to the Facebook page.

So I went to someone I had been exchanging emails with just to see if they were who they said they were. And yes, the Facebook Page I contacted was theirs. So here was one more person I was pretty sure was who they said they were. But after a few IMs they wanted to know more of who I really was since I now knew they were who they were. So I brought up Vegas and a few things about me, and they asked me if I was someone. A distinct name.  A name of someone in Vegas I knew.

WTF? Once again I freaked out a little. At first I thought, OMG I look like a stalker again, but they had come to my blog, right. Were they stalking me? The name they brought up was someone I had not seen in a few years so I realized, this was just another coincidence, even on the outer edges of this case strange coincidences could be found. So we knew someone mutually. I knew they were real, and now they knew who I was as well. And I got a lot of info from this person, most of it was stuff I had heard from others, but now this pattern was showing. And what have I learned… a lot.

Again, most of the info from emails etc. came from people I know are involved in this case, some closer than others,  and I will continue to not bring any of their identities up.  Since I myself made a fake  Facebook page to talk to people, I can understand why some people don’t want to be mentioned. Also I have received almost no emails back from the screen names that I think are trolls or sock-puppets or whatever you want to call them. The ones with diarrhea of the comment and like to change their screen names. I have sent a few out to them and have had no reply, probably cause they do not check their fake emails.

So what have I learned… pretty much what I have suspected. Games. And I could go on about why I thought some of you are playing them, but it would prove nothing. And since it has been going on for so long, I’m not sure which ones of you truly think you are helping, which ones of you are purposely hurting, and which ones of you are random psychopaths picked up by this rolling snowball.

But I will say this, Mari probably has no idea who zero (me) is, but she does know some of you, and it seems to me at least, Mari is the one being hurt by all this. Misinformation, misdirection, repeated BS! Mari and her family, as well as all the other victims families need answers, not games. So I hope ALL of you, but especially the ones actually involved in this case one way or another, can at least see that, and be more careful about what you are doing.

As for me and this blog… I am a stranger to this case and those involved in it so I don’t have half the info on this case as most of you and could not add much to the sleuthing. So I will move on but  still keep checking back in hopes this case is solved soon.  Today the comments here have finally calmed down so maybe you will all move on as well. But if not… I’ll still be here, I don’t know how much any of you actually read my blog anyway, like with LISK.com it’s all about the comments.

Oh and anyone wanting to chat about any of this, but not in the public forum, can  send me and email at zerodinh@rocketmail.com

And The Rest…

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So I had a plan to how this blog would continue… the next title was to be CHERYL#1 and bring us back into those final comments on LISK.com that I first had stumbled on to in February. I was gonna write about how Chery#1 seemed to be the one who tried to really stay out of the finger-pointing and name calling and would try to keep things on topic. But as I have commented, stuff came out of the games as well and Cheryl#1 seemed to be able to separate and discuss what was important without going off on those who were deemed “spreading misinformation”. Not that Cheryl#1 did not comment on people being suspicious with the info they had (such as Flukeyou). But Cheryl seemed (to me at least) try to stay above the drama without constantly complaining about the drama like others did. This would have then brought me to M.D. Rice and Linda. Which would have came first, I’m not sure, because honestly I was worried about Linda’s. I knew it was gonna seem harsh. So I probably would have ended Cheryl#1 leading into the sometimes arguments that Cheryl#1 and M.D.Rice would get into. Then next would have titled

M.D.RICE and I would have written about M.D.Rice someowhat take on the case (which is a little confusing because they never could really fully comment  on their ideas, but I believe it had something to do with a professional hit man with a personal vendetta of some sort. Which I would have then gone into how that makes me thing of Fluke and the other “gangster names” said to have lived in OB. Then on to how some like Cheryl#1 suspected M.D.Rice was a fake screen name or not who they claim to be or something like this, I have not yet gone back to reread and get the whole jist of it, and since I’m not continuing the blog in this manner there is no need to at this moment figure out M.D.Rice. But I do know I would have ended that blog discussing why commenters like Cheryl#1 and others saw things in M.D.Rice’s comments but could not see what I saw in Linda’s comments. Which would have made the next blog called

LINDA, (edited since original post) Linda’s comments seemed to be contradicting.  She could be nice and friendly but then could also be pretty harsh. From feeling foolish to suddenly ranting on and on about others.  Linda was not the only one to call names, but hers could be like I said, harsh. Next would have been

PS149 which would have been cool, cause PS149 has recently joined us here in comments. I mainly would have had questions about comments PS149 made and why they were so sure (if they did not know him personally) KNOW CPH was innocent. I would have also brought my belief that PS149 and Too Close Too Home did not seem like the same person to me, but I wondered if they didn’t know each other in RL. I would have then bought it full circle to

MYSTERYMOM7 and about how I felt about her being stalked, which I have said again and again is a CRIME and not a GAME and she needs to keep up on it till some one is held responsible, I would have also gone into how, like other’s, I could see how the possible influence from Flukeyou could be distracting some of her ideas and so on and so forth, but again why go on about it now right?

Then it would have been time for some kind of ending… but what? I mean I haven’t shown anything that most of you don’t already know… the TRUTH will come out or it won’t… hopefully the CPH trial will answer some questions, but maybe it won’t. As I have always said, hopefully this case gets solved SOON!  For the victims and the families, this is what NEEDS to be done. And also as I have said I am not in any position but to ask questions when it comes to the LISK case. But I could see through some of these comments on LISK.com and thought I could get a better understanding by blogging about it, and I did. But proving anything is impossible. At least for me. I can only speculate, and as of yesterday, I realized that would help no one reading this blog. Only myself. And that would defeat the whole reason I started blogging.

But we still have to have some sort of ending…

So bear with me…

just a little bit longer.

Ruffled Feathers

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Seems like no body wants to be on the other side of sleuthing…

Funny thing is, I was gonna blog today about how much more you all seemed to be pulling together and actually making some progress towards what you all say you are doing… trying to help the victims and their families. But too many of you want to blame me for what you have all created… so I will continue… if you want me to stop, ignore me, or better yet, STOP PLAYING GAMES!

Cheryl

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These creeps have no off-switch. They’re EVERYHWERE. Especially Online.
They work very hard to be liked. But they are an infection. They’re a disease.
Now let me tell you how I really feel….

Cheryl on August 31st, 2011 at 8:36 am

I’m assuming that this is the same commenter as Cheryl#1, if I am wrong I hope someone will correct me. If I’m right then Cheryl is a good bridge from old posts to last posts, because Cheryl was there through most of it and stayed out of most of the finger-pointing. To me Cheryl seemed to be real, not a sock-puppet for someone else.  A free-thinker.  But Cheryl did doubt some of the “inside” info:

@Maddellena
Exactly

I doubt seriously that SCPD is leaking information to any Oak Beach resident.

Any “inside” information is either a lie, or actully coming from

the”inside.”

And I doubt PH killed a woman’s daughter near his home, left her there, discarded her personal effects in his back yard, then called the victim’s mother to make sure she’d know he was, perhaps, the last people to have seen her alive.

Someone framing him would do all these things.

I’m not even sure WHO made the call from Hackett’s home. Hackett himself may have called. His behavior is strange. But why?

As for his possible stalker,
Only an obsessed individual would pour over Hackett’s income tax returns – or claim to.
Conclusions reached from that is purely speculative – junk really.

Stating as FACT that Hackett partied with hookers and drugs – leads to the reaonable conlusion that the accuser was also present. They were there- or it’s untrue.
Either Way.
This is BAD.
Personality disorder – AT BEST
I focus on Brewer and whoever else was with Shannan that night.
Absolutely NO ONE has been ruled out of this investigation
EXCEPT DORMER,
(How far would a father closely connected to LE go in order to protect his child?)

Cheryl on December 27th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

Cheryl also pointed out how easy it would be for someone to comment as someone else, ANYONE else:

By The Way

I’m not sure WHY
But anyone can post using another person’s name on this website

Cheryl on December 27th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

I’m not. I’m Cheryl (#1) using the same email address I always use.

Catch My Drift?

Mari Gilbert on December 27th, 2011 at 7:42 pm

That should not post

Cheryl on December 27th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

Cheryl commented as Mari to show how someone could comment under any name, even if they were already commenting under another. But earlier someone else had posted as Mari:

I am so Happy that FlukeYou has a Good mind, and talks so well because I am so sick of the lies, and two-face people.
Thank you Fluke!

Mari Gilbert on November 6th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

Now, was this also Cheryl poking fun at Flukeyou, or was this what Cheryl saw and realized people may be commenting as others. So then was this Mari? I know that some of the victims families have talked to some of those who commented on this site. But this comment came out of nowhere. Was it Flukeyou?

Cheryl was one of the few on LISK.com who did not seem to have a hidden agenda or hidden info. So their insights are import.

Florida Connection

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Speaking of Daytona Beach, there are several residents that live in Oak Beach who own property in Florida. Interesting.

This was left in a comment by Fascinated on August 23rd, 2011. And I agree it is interesting. In fact it is one of the first questions I had when I started reading LISK.com back in February. What is the Florida connection?

Let’s take a look at more comments left way back in 2011 about this.

LE was looking into Daytona Beach.
People and things overlap.

Cheryl on August 23rd, 2011 at 7:31 am

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A gang member with ties to all the players lives near daytona….he is capable of anything and goes by two different names…he still has a house at oak beach but was shamed out of the community…life long drug abuser with a penchant for partying…he is a close friend of GC …..has ties to bad people that do bad things

Flukeyou on August 23rd, 2011 at 3:27 pm

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Oak Beach, Atlantic City and Daytona Beach are a straight line down the east coast.
If people have property in Oak Beach have properties on Daytona Beach it would mean that SK had could have connections there.

Cheryl on August 23rd, 2011 at 3:56 pm

Now this was before the Screen Name MM7 was involved in the LISK.com posts, but as we all know now, she allegedly lives in Florida. We also know that CPH also lives in Florida. This to me was the first strange coincidence I noticed last February while reading on LISK.com.  Is there something more to that… probably.

Masters Vito and Damian are 2 names that are linked to alternative lifestyle parties in the New York area. But theses parties also were in Florida.

Master Vito may just well be Vito Sarfati the narrator for “Confessions of the Oak Beach Drifter”.  And according to Vito’s Facebook page he is W. the actual author of the book. And this author also just happens to live in Florida.

Victims

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Before I move on looking at comments left on LISK.com, I know that many think that this is just more distraction from the real case and justice for the victims. I want to make clear that my interest is what brought me to LISK.com and not the other way around. And as I have shown, these games of misdirection and finger-pointing has been going on at LISK.com for a long time. I just started reading it in February of this year, but looking back there are tons of comments accusing others of not caring about the victims, and not helping the victims, and hurting the victims.

I don’t know if the victims or their families are being hurt by any of this. Although I do understand that some of these screen names have been involved with the families to some extent, so I’m sure they know who the helpful ones are by now and who is spreading misdirection, maybe, but maybe not. I don’t know. But as for my involvement and this blog… I stated from the beginning that this was to find the truth behind the comments and not to catch a serial killer. But I think if you are honest you can’t help but see, that getting to the truth behind LISK.com comments can and will help the victims, even if it’s just to show that there are people out there that are misrepresenting their involvement in this case.

So if you truly care about the victims, then you should see that my wanting to seek out the truth behind all these comments and inside information still can help the victims and their families. But in my humble opinion, it is the authorities that owe it to the victims to make sense of this mess and do their job and solve this case or cases. I’ll leave you, for now, with all your own words. Did you mean them?

I agree with Wanda. I stand for the victims and their families and part of that pledge is bringing tranparancy and clarity to the investigation. Maddalena is not my real name but I do not use other names to further confuse or mix up. In defense of Cheryl 2, I think that her heart is in the right place and just happens to be her name of choice but has since made amends.

Maddalena on January 6th, 2012 at 11:35 am

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That is very true,Linda. And that is the most important thing. We all want justice for the victims.

M.D. Rice on February 20th, 2013 at 8:33 pm

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THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT…please stop guys!! totally not important argument in the big picture?? hello?? THE VICTIMS??

linda on February 21st, 2013 at 8:25 pm

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 Most important, it just isn’t fair to the victims to have these sick individuals demanding that searching for the real killer(s) by giving the false hope of the incorrect accusation of who the LISK is. Anyone who really cares about seeking justice for the victims will understand how important it is to keep an open mind and not let the words of a few diseased minds stop anyone from looking for the real killer. The victims deserve justice. They deserve much more than having an innocent man framed for their murders while the real killer walks the streets ready and able to kill again.

For the sake of the victims, trust nothing you see written or said that cannot be verified. For the sake of the victims, do not let one man’s personal vendetta stop you from looking for the real LISK.

ps149 on February 27th, 2013 at 6:09 pm

All Been Said Before

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so, this is one way it is done. Create a false enemy, and get your victim to believe you share this in common. Then the victim lets you in under the guise of defeating the enemy. The enemy is right there next to you pointing their finger. Isn’t that so, crappy? Borderline much?

VeryReal on January 13th, 2012 at 2:08 am

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@Very Real-You took the words that I could not say right out of my mouth. I suspect the reason for people posting under multiple names is that they have support from what appears to be other posters regarding their theory. I much rather debate with those who disagree than deal with creepiness esp those who are one individual who post interchangebly under female and male guises.Makes me wonder what else they are capable of. I think the killer can be found on this site or perhaps his lacky associates.

Maddalena on January 13th, 2012 at 1:53 pm

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i wish some of you cooks that talk in riddles,and keep accusing people would stop it. your giving me a damn head ache.can’t even read good post cause of your shit.if your not here to help just leave.you sound like a bunch of kids, that your parents need to pay attention to what you pull up on your pc.stop insulting ppl.stop talking about ppls chin hairs,how fat they are…etc.. none of this has anything to do with this case so why say it,other than to be a immature brat.and if you continue the admin needs to block your ip address.have a great day.

wanda on January 7th, 2012 at 1:08 pm

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@Nasty
What Mari said is what I meant by compromised. Some people here have “fly on the wall” information and I have to question exactly how they came by it.
And Sybill, I mean Sophia, used this thread to drop hints until we can came to the conclusion that best suited “her” agenda.
If these insiders have gone to Law Enforcemen then what’s their point here? We are honestly interested in the case but we are not pawns.

Cheryl on August 22nd, 2011 at 6:34 pm

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Cheryl, I say keep em talkin and discern for yourself. I can tell nothing bogus is going to get passed you woman. You’re really sharp. So is Mari and the others. Im curious as to why anyone would waste precious moments of his or her life to deceive others on a discussion board and it really makes you wonder…I’m referring to Sybil and others who have stopped by to chat.

The Nasty on August 22nd, 2011 at 8:39 pm

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@too close to home

I’ve been reading the two of you since the beginning…back and forth,back and forth…..Its not about the 2 of you.
Theres a poster on the other website saying similar things….are you over there busting his chops too every time he posts something?
I don’t know for sure if CPH is a killer;But he is a proven pathological liar.Definitely One of my POIs as far as involvement goes.And my opinion is not based on what Fluke says.You have to admit that things don’t look so good for CPH.
TS has done some great sleuthing on CPH on the other site…and those are FACTS.
The things Fluke posts about just happened to have been True,regardless of how he knows.
You’re the only one here (or anywhere,for that matter) that doesn’t want Fluke to talk.
So far, I know you’ve been right about one thing…..This is NOT a game.
LE is still on the case and still questioning people….
So if you have information (that are facts) about Fluke,then I suggest you meet with the detectives.
If you care so much for the victims and their families…go out there and bring some new information to the site.CPH isn’t the only POI out there being dicussed.
The other site has an abundance of interesting factual information about other questionable characters.If you want to talk research.
Speaking of FACTS…you still didn’t answer…
How do you KNOW Fluke is lying?
How do you KNOW CPH isn’t involved in any way?

BTW….for someone doesn’t know CPH…you sure get worked up.

Puzzled on March 10th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

These comments and many others, like mine, not trying to figure out the LISK case but trying to figure out LISK.com. What is the purpose here? How many are just outsiders sucked in? How many have inside info because they are involved in the case? Who’s being tricked and who’s really doing the tricking? And WHY?  Always back to this. Why is this ongoing finger-pointing game going on for so long on this site?

I heard the site had closed down once before and I found this comment left by admin:

please do not argue. we already closed the site because of people being argumentative. it is okay to express how you feel about this subject but do not attack other members of the site.

admin on March 1st, 2012 at 12:48 pm

This seems to simplify it way too much. A lot more than arugmenting was going on…

Jury Box

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My Theory,
 Very Real, Caddie, Jim Jones, 2C2H are only here to chase away innocent people looking for justice….You Hi-Jack the sight….inflict fear to those you may feel are weak..Thats SADIST, Joking via causing harm, putting out peoples info is going to get one in serious trouble.
Harm is used on here daily as well as words like: IDIOT< STUPID MENTALLY ILL< FAT<
 I feel for people if they buy into the bullying tactic to which you run the sight with.
 Joesph Brewer in my opinion has tortured, Murdered, mislead, Killed, all these young girls plus I bet at least 20 to 30 more….starting in the 1980’s.
 Along they way what better to get friendly with the nieghbors than having them invite to a girl night…….Than bringing a group to answer……Use his Nieghbors but tangle them so tight in his web….they have been guilty to of crimes ………maybe The Doctor knew about a few victims……,GC please I bet he has used escorts regularly…..shaving & getting dressed when Shannan goes banging on door?????
 Makes sense if he just got back from Joesphs party or maybe thats were JB went to have GC serviced..
Why else would Gus be up….car show NOWAY…Bu**shit
Viagra………Bet he didn’t open the door because she was already with him….
 Theory….Thats what this sight is about
P.S. I AM……. JURY BOX …….ONLY
Jury Box on January 7th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

So here, again we see that LISK.com has been was stuck on repeat for a while. Name calling, fake screen names, giving out personal information, that was the sites modus operandi. We also see a somewhat continuing “Theory” that a group of O.B. Residence may be involved in the deaths of some of the victims as well as helping to cover it up. Which then leads to the accusations and admittance of  some commenters  living in (at least at one time or another)  Oak Beach. While all this seems to much like a movie script, it does actually make it all start to make sense.  So is that really what we got here, a few Oak Beach Neighbors online covering up their involvement in these atrocious crimes. That or the flip-side where you have Oak Beach Residences merely defending their  innocence to a slandering neighbor with an axe to grind, maybe literally.

It would much easier for me to believe that a bunch of “Trolls” were playing games on here, or that Flukeyou or MM7 were some master mind psycho twisting it all, or even what I first read in these comments, that MM7 was on to CPH and he was stalking her. But all of it loses substance when you look at each idea carefully. So weather or not any one from Oak Beach is involved in any murders aside, they seem to definitely be involved in the LISK.site.  Theory, of course. And one we will get into shortly. But Jury Box had a lot more to say, and theories that may not of  sat well with other commenters, especially if they were Oak Beach Residences.

@Mad,
I respect that you have continously tried to solve this case or bring a new outlook
Like yourself, I also am insightful…..but I see JB being the main character. As I stated earlier I recieved a messages which I mentioned. I believe JB attended a big boys party at a young age & I felt as though GC was the sponsor of the girls..I believe JB continued & so did the Doc..

I feel the Doc was supplying the GC mob with high end drugs that a rich customer paid well for. I believe GC probably felt JB was getting reckless & knows they covered up a party gone wrong……

I bet from that time, JB had people wound tightly in his web…..

Why was Gus up & in the bathroom @ that time before 5am…did he just get back from being serviced??? Car show, I highly doubt it….The key man by the gate….What was & is his ROLE??????

More to that picture than one could ever swallow…..

Where did JB take Shannan when she first arrived….The Doc’s???/
For the Sedative Right??????

Is GC, Dr Hackett on Viagra????…..Jb couldn’t get it up…it sounds….used every excuse to get MP out of the area (go to CVS for drugs & lube?)..Why did JB accuse SG of being a male????? Because he couldn’t get erect or get satisfied…. coinsidence a male dressed in womens clothing was found….What could MP say if JB said SG took off upon arrival from CVS???? Nothing..it would have been all on him….But Brilliant Shannan Called 911 & JB already attacked her.. JB put MP on phone.see what caused EVERYTHING FROM THAT POINT ON …. JB SAID HE WAS NOT GOING TO PAY until satisfied……..that is motive, that is why wanted Shannan to finish …that is why JB claimed SG was a male & lastly JB could never be satisfied until the victim was deceased….that’s how SK EVOLVED TO, necrophilia…..this is common……..

So wrongful Death should be as Follows IMO:

JOESPH BREWER, I believe he is the SK, the mastermind, Necrophilia, the person who got Shannan to go to LI

GUS COLLETTI, SG never entered his house which he lied, because he was part of the party if he opened the door Shannan would have pointed him out.

Dr Hackett, who sedated SG, called MG, claimed SG was in his rehab & I believe as stated the Dr gave SG a SEDATIVE

Now 2C2H is insinuating JS junior was the so called DRIFTER….not sure what thats about yet…BUT I do know the Killings started way before he was born.so What is that about???? 2C2H knowing or being Police Officer Neighbor

Now I believe MG should strip all these people of every nickle they may have & the Lawyer should cease any monetary transactions….since the Dr already signed house over to his wife…all should be nil & void if done before Shannan went missing or that opens a suit for the Wife to be sued directly

GO MARI GO!!!!!!
I AM IN SUPPORT OF ANY ACTIONS MAKING THESE KNOWN LIARS responsible for mucking up an INVESTAGATION as well as being part of some type of group cover up/ group crime spree.

Jury Box on January 8th, 2012 at 3:08 pm

Before I go on, I’m not saying that anyone who was sleuthing an Oak beach Resident was bashed, because this is not true, and commenters got in to arguments all the time about different theories. And finger-pointing was done by most of the frequent commenters. But some of these commenters really seemed to rub others wrong and then a routine  seemed to come out. Read these next posts and see if they don’t have a familiarity in them.

KIMBERLY STFU! GEEZ U FUCKING PYSCHO

jerk box on January 8th, 2012 at 8:20 pm

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I am not Kimberly.but I did hit a nerve…so something must be true?????
Now Jerk Box..Ah CADDIE, Fat Man with Pooper scooper????@ the Zoo, how appropriate. When in Roman do as the Romans.

Jury Box on January 9th, 2012 at 6:49 am

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jury kim you are psycho. I have even agreed with and supported fluke in the past, but you ignore that completely. You only see what supports your delusions. How do you even know if I’m a man you fool? LE can come over anytime. I have never changed my name. Unlike YOU who have falsely accused, threatened people with false arrest for being people they aren’t and doing what they’ve never done. PSYCHO. I feel very comfortable saying that, as you bear false witness, and do I really need to remind you that what you are doing is harassment, and slander. You wait until you think people are gone, then you start your bullshit over again. I never threatened anyone here. I will not just lie down and take your bullshit.

VeryReal on January 13th, 2012 at 1:37 am

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jerkbox, she’s right, she’s not kimberly TODAY anyway!
You are going to hang your foolish head in shame when it all comes out psycho kim, because none of what you imply is true. Why do we have to keep explaining to you that this site has nothing to do with what the investigators think? They aren’t going to change their minds based on some wacko slanderer off their meds accusing Ronald frickin Reagan along with the rest of the world. Didn’t your therapist tell you you aren’t better yet, and have to keep taking the meds?

VeryReal on January 13th, 2012 at 1:44 am

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Different Screens Names, but same game. Alright, I think we are about ready to come back to the posts and comments I first read on LISK.com as well as all that has been posted in comments since the site went down. Time to come full circle sort to speak.

Who’s Who?

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wanda
i am tired of these users using false names,acting crazy under others names.trying to use others names to say stuff that person would not say.please vote here on,making it a 1 user per-name site.and possible a 1 user per ip address site.or 1 user per email address.maybe this will put a halt to the mayhem.
all that agree please vote yes,all that dont agree vote no.
admin. please take this very heavily in your decision.

In this post  Wanda left in  January 2012 on LISK.com, it seems clear that the question of someone using more than one screen name was an ongoing thing on LISK.com:

Just a warning, Jury has been rather quite…
So that means that he is still here… he has just switched screen names….
I’ll have that info shortly….                        

NO WAY!!! on February 7th, 2012 at 10:50 am

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@ Jenny,
I can tell you for a fact that Im not Jury……I just started posting here,and somehow I knew this would happen.I hesitated to post here because of so many being accused of posting as someone else….Maybe some are but Im not….And no I dont Live on Long Island,Im over 1500 miles away,but my husband was told that they may get the recovery contract after Irene,and I fallow him,so I was a bit concerned about a serial Killer being on the Loose….. Im just praying that this sick person/s are caught….so that the victums can Rest In Peace..And their familes can have Justice…

SouthernBelle on February 7th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

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Mr. Pooper Scooper,
Cappy…..loves caps…Weirdo Hats
You got to be kidding…..Whats your real screen name Very Real???????Barnaby…………Ken??????/Caddie?????

You make me laugh you are a BIG FAKE…..How’s the ZOO life????? Cleaning up Poop all day must get aggravating……so I guess creating a super Hero persona is almost understandable

How about a trailer trash cook book??????? To go with that lifestyle of yours.

The peach fuz chin…..whats that about, Speak of heavy…OMG….Dirty Looking …..Dumpy more like it…..Basically jumped into a dumpster to dress….but nothing fits….real Raunchy

I won’t reveal your license plate or your address like you do to others……You are a discusting FAKE.Go jacuzzi/hot tub your clothes…the stink is unbearable.

You ever here that saying CRACK KILLS……pull up your dumpy Huge jeans as your backside SMELLS. Balding head grasps for straws with tiny side burns & straggly gross strangly chin hair.

If targeting posters putting out peoples private info makes you feel Superior (cuz thats what you do) you get the info from Mari …..using whatever means you can, this is not being a detective…..it’s honestly taking advantage of people with a genuine concern. Why try to inflict fear????? on others, why Caddies Gus Coletti talk as though he is on edge of his porch just waiting to legitimately shoot someone.

This is the atmosphere you & peudeo’s names create….very consistant

Now give the Sight back to the families Mr. Elephant Man…..hoping to get fame & spot light attention from them….You deserve nothing so don’t even start about how important you are.

They may have not noticed you are a LEECH yet….But they will.

To me I see you as a discusting, grave robber…….who thinks everybody owes him….just like the book writer…..Do you know anything about the film someone is trying to make..probably a ploy by Serial Killer…..

Get back to THE FAMILIES…..NOT YOU SUCKING UP TO PEOPLE TO LEECH OFF THEM!!!!!!!!!

Jury Box on January 7th, 2012 at 11:45 am

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haha that ones a kook and i would never respond to it!im not new ive been posting for a while now.always under jenny sooooo quite insulting to me if you can even entertain that i am the jury kook.anyway i am one of the minority on this board being that i live here and none of you do.it truly amazes me that there are so many people outside of long island that has taking an intrest to this case.believe me people here could care less!most people i talk to barely knows we have a serial killer right under our noses!!!

jenny on February 7th, 2012 at 7:08 am

So Barnaby Jones  and  Jim (who I’m guessing is Jim Jones) are Fluke supporters. Are they Fluke? And what about jenny? She said she lived there and thanks Truthspider for turning her on to the book supposed to be about CPH’s childhood. Is she Fluke? And what about NO WAY!!! ?

And then on the other side we have mcme. Definitely not a fan of Fluke’s.  Then there are others like The Foreigner. I did not read any posts made by The Foreigner but many comments about them, so they must have ruffled some feathers on one side or the other.

But looking at older posts one commenter seems to not trust ither side, and it didn’t seem like anyone trusted hers. Jury Box…

Caddie YOU ARE LYING!!!!!!!

YOU CONSTANTLY LIE HERE> IP…….YOU KNOW WELL THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT THAT ILLETERIT TO KNOW IP ADDRESS CAN CHANGE OR BE PURCHASED TO CHANGE EVEN LOOKING AS THOUGH ONE IS FROM JUPITER.

So stop with the NONSENSE……You are not believed

Nobody on this Sight has a pass card….that is what serail killers look for. Trust from innocent…..NO ONE HERE IS TO BE BELIEVED as to who they are.

People use others identity….try & achieve sending a virus to a poster to track steal passwords, banking & even posting as…..

This sight is a non secured…That Says It All people. You knopw what you are getting into….

Mingling with Residents from Oak Beach & most likely Joesph Brewer The Serial Killer Himself…IMO

So every1 knows the big game on here
Reveal or use screen name….whatever…there are no rules..here

They make them when the crossed a serious boundary than they do not inforce

Jury Box on January 7th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

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Wait… now who is Caddie?

Joey Scalice Jr.

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I’m not here to try and change anybody’s opinion, only to offer mine. I’ve also seen the video of JS jr.acting,believe it or not, more reserved than normal while dealing with a neighbor. He must have known the cameras were on. He’s a guy with some serious anger problems. I don’t consider that a video of a resident acting poorly towards a victims family member.
Jenny, please be aware that I’ve been following this story since it began and have watched all the shows, read all the stories and seen all the videos. I’ve also lurked around on a few different web sites that discuss it.
NO WAY, sorry you got a bad impression of OB. As far as the property value argument, most people I know wouldn’t leave the beach for all the money in the world.
People are not always going to see things the same way, and should be able to discuss why they see the same thing differently, without it turning into an attack on anyone. Not that I feel at all attacked, or feel that I’ve attacked anyone.
mcme on February 8th, 2012 at 3:35 pm 

The first mentions of Joey all seem to be about an Oak Beach resident who is seen on the News.  Mentions of J.S. Jr. on the news with neighbor Gus. I did not see these news programs, I do not know who J.S. Jr. is, but due to so many early posts of him on the news and the mentions of him being a neighbor in Oak Beach, leads me to believe the Scalice Family lived in the gated community.  This is why I’m not capable to really sleuth this case, I don’t even know if the Scalice family lived in Oak Beach, but again, many comments from different sleuthers  say that they were.

And from the beginning it seems there were some people on the site that thought Flukeyou was Joey. And I’m guessing MM7 knew (or thought) Flukeyou was Joey. Yet even when PS149 accused Flukeyou of being Joey (at the time I thought this was a new accusation, now I know it has been going on for a while) there is still some hesitation for anyone to come right out and say Flukeyou is Joey, even though everyone seems to know this.

If Joey is Flukeyou a lot makes sense and a lot more can be focused on. So Joey has reasons to target CPH and has been on sites using different screen names ( I believe Too Close had noticed on at least one post I read where Fluke forgot to change his name Brendan before posting). I also think Flukeyou was behind some of the comments on MM7s blog, like Gus and Barbra H., but that’s just my opinon. But the Brendan thing confuses me because then who is Brendan/Truthspider. They seem to be 2 different people connected maybe through something to do with lifeguards. So why was Flukeyou posting under his buddies name?

What I’m getting at is there are screen names on both sides that seem may be connected to A. Flukeyou or B. Too Close Too Home. And a lot of these screen names had already stopped posting before I started reading. Did they stop posting or did they change screen names or were they just retired sock puppets?

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