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Joseph Brewer & Michael Pak

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When I first came to read at LISK.com and Catching LISK, I like many others had known about three people mentioned that seemed to be POIs in the LISK case. The doctor, the driver, and the john. 48 Hours and other articles on the case told you all about these three men.  All three seemed supicious, but LE had cleared each from being a suspect. I’m not gonna even try to speak for them. But it’s safe to say that many still have questions about these three men.  My blog and other’s mention the doctor quite a bit. I have not talked much about the other two men though. Until now.

What some don’t realize is that these three men fit into “what happened to Shannan conspiracies” but I’m not sure how much they fit with the others who were found. Especially Mike the driver. If there was any connection to the other’s I would think it would have been discovered long ago and he would have been seen as a suspect. My opinion of course, but he was involved in sex trafficking plain and simple, and if LE thought pressuring him would get some names of people involved they would and, again my opinion, Mike would have given up anyone and anything he knew. So I’m guessing no connection was made. Let’s not forget he was a driver, if there was anything connecting him to others missing or killed we’d know by now, my opinion again. So I never felt much reason to bring up the driver, again, I’m not trying to speak for LE and have no idea what they know or don’t know about the driver, just that I believe if there was anything to link him they would jump on it.

I felt the same about Joseph Brewer as well, but there are a couple of differences there. One, we have stories of parties that get out of control. Mainly from Flukeyou (but I doubt he can be trusted, his stories just seem to be that, stories, right?) but I have read the book “Confessions of the Oak Beach Drifter” and the parties are implied in there as well. Still, once again, if LE could connect Brewer to any of the others that were found near Oak Beach I would think they would have been all over him and that he would have sung like a bird, do I really have to keep saying this is all just my opinion?

Again all three of these POI’s (can I call them that?) depends on what you think happened to Shannan.

If you believe that Shannan’s death was possibly a tragic accident, then if no connection is found between these three and anyone missing or found murdered then they most likely have nothing to do with any of this, well other than the john and the driver, their actions were partly responsible for what happened to Shannan no mater what, in my opinion.

If you believe Shannan’s death is connected to the AC4 then all of them once again take on suspicion. The thing is, once again, if LE could find connections between any of them and the AC4 I’m sure they would have pressured them and one of them would have snapped and come clean or spilled info on someone else. None of this seemed to happen because no arrests have been made. But again, LE, what they know, and how they are handling the case is not anything I know anything about and I am not speaking for them. I just have to believe they are doing everything they can to solve these cases.

So that leaves us with a third possibility (and the one I tend to believe): Shannan’s death was not an accident, but is still not connected to the AC4. When looking at everything, to me it seems there is more to be answered in Shannan’s death. And if that is true, then all three, the driver, the john,  And the doctor, once again come up into suspicion as does anyone else in that neighborhood that acts strangely about this case. But do we have conspiracy or coincidence?

I hope and believe these cases will be solved. If conspiracy is involved here, someone will slip and then spill on the others, in fact I think it already would have happened. Coincidence is a much harder thing to understand and work out. Especially when so many seem to be hiding or holding info back or at least pretending to. But I still think it will be worked out.

Out of the three of these men, it is Brewer I question the most, and that’s mainly because of what I read in Lost Girls. He goes on and on about what he knows that can break this case wide open, and yet won’t let you know what that is. This is something I have seen a lot in this case. Everyone’s got the answer, some know who the killer is for sure. Who’s got agenda and who’s just crazy is hard to tell apart. And a lot of you say you have gone to LE with your info, right? Why would anyone hold back info from LE if they thought it would help?

And yet years later and all these connections some of you have made, and still nothing that LE has been able to use.

In my opinion of course.

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DPH Sighting

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Well, once again it looks like Dorothy, Joey, and Cristin are all on that same track. Thanks to the 3 of them the Doc is about to be nailed to the wall for his involvement in Shannan’s death. And they will be heroes. They were right all along. Of course this is not what I hear, but let’s wait and see before making any rash statements.

I’d like to see everyone who claims to know what happened to Shannan put under oath and asked about their activities of that early May morning. I urge all of Oak Beach neighbors to come forward with ANYTHING they may know. Let’s find out once and for all if Joey or the Doc had anything to do with Shannan’s death.

I also would add, that if Joey and his crew are wrong, and nothing comes out of this lawsuit, then I suggest Mari sue Joey Scalise Jr. for something, I’m not a lawyer, but something to do with evidence tampering or something. I mean if the Doc is looked at because of his phone call and the idea that he said to a reporter that he saw Shannan “running away distressed” (which I have yet to see. Some did say they saw Shannan running away distressed, so there may be some misinformation or confusion here, but if there is proof the Doc said he saw Shannan that night, then yes that would be more lies the Doc is caught in and is probably hiding something, but again I have not seen it, which doesn’t matter as long as the proper people do), well then Joey’s telling of where Shannan’s stuff would be found, or where Shannan’s body would be found, or the numerous statements he has made on Cristin’s blog and LISK.com as other screen names alone, is reasons enough to have Joey put up under a microscope of the media and LE. Put Cristin and Jen up on the stand and make them tell their story under oath, I’d like to hear it. Use this blog as exhibit A.  And then get LISK.com and MM7’s “Catching LISK” blog as exhibit B and C.

All I’m saying is, if The Doc comes out of this lawsuit and nothing more is learned from it, then it is time to take a look at Joey and all those involved in feeding information to Mari and J.R . that is wrong (if the case so proves this). Their activities seem just as suspicious as any one else in this case.

CPH

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I thought I was gonna wait tell after Thanksgiving to start-up again, but my head is racing with things to write. So here we go.

The Doctor has been a big part of this since the beginning. Some thought CPH was commenting on LISK.com. Cristin thought he was down in Florida stalking her and leaving disturbing comments on her blog.

At the beginning of this  someone asked me if I really thought CPH was on LISK.com or MM7’s blog. My answer was, “if he’s a serial killer anything is possible”.

If  I was asked this question now I would have the definite answer “NO!”. Does it mean I don’t think he’s a serial killer? I doubt it much more now. Does it mean I don’t think he has any info to add to the investigation or what went on that night April 30th/may 1st 2010? That is not my call, and with so much coming out of that little community someone may be hiding something.

But was he here. No. Did he read my blog ever? I highly doubt it. He might have been told about LISK.com or MM7’s Catching LISK, but I just don’t think he came to stir it one way or the other. This means I also don’t think he stalked Cristin or posted anything on her blog. In fact I don’t think Cristin was stalked by anyone, I’ve made that clear before.

He has not been a part of all the hoopla and theatrics of LISK.com and MM7’s blog. Some think maybe his wife or daughter or other friend or family member was commenting in his defence, but I doubt that also.

At first most did not come to CPH’s defense, but more as the defense of the neighbors in general that Flukeyou was slandering and placing at JB’s house the night of Shannan’s disappearance. Most of the commenters still said many things about the Doc was suspicious, but the more Fluke pushed, the more people came to disagree with anything Fluke said, not because they were sticking up or covering for CPH but because they knew Fluke was lying about at least some of the stuff.

So if CPH was never there, who was? Well Joey of course. He’s the one who felt the need to take this all to a sleuthing site, to continuously bash his neighbors, pull in anyone he could to get his agenda met, and confuse and accuse those who didn’t agree with his agenda.

Joey, Joey, Joey. He’s the one you find behind every game play, not CPH. CPH never wrote on MM7’s blog, but we all know Joey did. CPH is nowhere to be found in any of this part. Only constant mentions of him by Joey.

No matter who was behind the running of LISK.com, no matter who connected up into the game and when, where does it all come back to?  Who do I come back to in any conversation with anyone about this again and again?

Flukyou aka Joey aka Junior…

Where Do We Go From Here?

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So I have read my fill at old LISK.com and reread some of the stuff from when I first got there earlier this year. I get it. Flukeyou pulled some people in and they shared screen names and misinformation. Remember early on we have Fieldnotes and Truthspider as well. The tree starts there, well somewhere Jen and Susie are there as well. (Remember Susie) All of these connect to Mari, some have met her and are helping her others are from Facebook and wanting to help. Who was there to actually help and who was there for other reasons I do not know for sure, but hindsight sure does help us see a few things.  I realize the fact that the phone call that was made to Mari from the doctor and his denial of it  plays a key role in all of this early on. And so does 48 hours, where a lot of us got the same story about the doctor. Before I ever came to LISK.com I was like who is this doctor and what does he know? And with LISK.com here is Fluke to put a personal touch on all the questions people had about the doc. And he had fake screen names and maybe a few of the already mentioned names to help spread his knowledge of the Doc and many other neighbors. And early on we have people, neighbors of Fluke and the Doc maybe, but definitely people with reason to doubt Flukes stories. And they start in trying to defluke him and also maybe figure out why he is saying some of the things he is. So here we have 2 sides of at least a few people using the sites lack of screen name security and a game begins.

Then there are the other readers here, having to figure out who is who and what their agenda is. Some of them pick sides. But the game gets really out there and many leave for different reasons. But the core remains, and when MM7 get’s  involved it really gets crazy. (I’m not sure how long DPH was involved or who put who in touch, but she was in there somewhere “helping”)

So MM7 has her reasons to think it’s the Doc long before her involvement with anyone I have mentioned above. So did I, as I mentioned above.

But watching 48 hours and reading news stories had quite a few people looking suspicious. The john, the driver, the doctor. Yes some suspicious people, how could they all be cleared? I, like many thought these things when we saw or read what was being said about this case. But after her getting involved with Flukeyou and working the case with Jen and Dorothy she knew 99.9% the doc was the killer, and because of that he was stalking her.

All very dramatic, but also very suspicious.

Some of the  gamers splinter, some question other’s motives. A lot of it comes to a head due to Joey not telling Cristin about his new baby? But this is just part of the onslaught of things  now being posted in the dying days of LISK.com.

The addition of PS149 on LISK.com helped speed this up, but Too Close had been there from the beginning trying to keep the madness Fluke and company were creating from spreading. And others like Linda were sick of the constant accusing of anyone who disagreed or found their connections questionable. My blog also came around, one more place for the show to continue. Most people just wanted the game to stop and the case to be brought back to being about the victims, the real ones not those who were victims of themselves. And I am still one of these people by the way.

There is also Websleuth, which because of my email address I can’t get an account there, I heard all the changes came there and made it much harder to become a member specifically because of  involvement of those I have mentioned above.

So back n forth it goes and it continues because the Doc is suspicious. It continues because Joey is just as suspicious. It continues because Dorothy is being used or is quite the wakko. (maybe both) It continues because Jen is either scared or sneaky. (I just can’t figure you out Jen) It continues because Cristin is either scared, played, or quite diabolical. (just my opinion, still not for sure which one applies, maybe a combo of all three)

It continues because none of the information, Joey, Cristin, Dorothy, Jen, or anyone else that was part of the games ever proved anything to anyone. It continues because you all connected and Mari at least must think one of you is hiding something or knows something, I will not speak for her, but if I was her I would be questioning all of you.

This is what I know and I doubt anyone will change my thoughts on any of this. There is still much I don’t know. There is still all the crazy screen names which is a lot more difficult to understand. And I know what I have wrote is just a general idea of what went on. I mean there is a lot more to Fieldnotes involvement in all this and when he tried to back away from it he became a child molester and a LISK suspect, so getting his side of this would be helpful, but it’s understandable why he doesn’t want any part of this any more. I don’t know much about the original Truthspider, Brenden right? Is he still involved in this somewhere? I remember cryptic posts about lifeguards and Fluke and Spider being friends.  Still so much cryptic stuff out there, which is startling when you put it up against the ongoing case and the cryptic parts of it.

Was an Oak Beach resident involved in any of murders? If so was it someone posting on LISK.com? We won’t know these answers till the case is solved. But Joey sure convinced a few people that there is something to doc putting himself into the middle of the case, unfortunately or maybe fortunately doing so also put him questionably “in the middle of the case”.

But where do I go from here with this blog?

I will post the remaining 200+ comments for those interested in reading the rest of them, though other then some virus talk, it’s a lot of the same thing. There are a few other posts with comments that I might put up here, again for those interested in reading them.

But really from here the only place to go is to continue focusing on those I know were involved here and I believe could be a little more light shedding if they wanted to be. We know who they all are, I can’t keep going over and over the things they want to keep circling around, I need to help push forward.

So let’s all enjoy our Thanksgiving and then I’ll focus in on Joey and his gang.

More Of the 200+ Comments

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Sorry this is taking so long, but there is a lot to snip and post. Well that Deee was longer winded than me. LOL. So many accusing other screen names of being fake. And let’s face it, there are quite a few of them that were. I can spot some of them, how ’bout you? So many good ideas offered to the sites admin also. Too bad they didn’t take any of it. But I believe they were getting exactly what they wanted out of LISK.com.

There’s quite a bit that can be learned from these 200+ comments. So make sure you study them all. I have to take a break and get started on my week, so I’ll leave ya with the next few. More from Flukeyou. And now that he’s commenting on the thread (at least under this screen name) you can bet the comments will heat up.

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The Doctor Is In

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So JJ may be Jim Jones, that is who I am told at least.  Is JJ Jim Jones? There are posts on here by Jim Jones as well.  Maybe he started as JJ and moved on to Jim Jones. Whoever JJ is, their first posts in April might have set everything in motion.

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All these early posts make me wonder if someone was watching and looking for recruits. Some one fishing perhaps. And these early posters got caught. Let’s take a closer look at this first post and the 7 comments made on it. You might be surprised at what get’s brought up. Some of you might not.

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DPH Sighting

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Spring to Summer 2014: a friend further south traced threatening posts on a blog re: Long Island serial killings to Centerreach, Blue Point and other locations within Suffolk County. We WILL find out who was there at Joseph (“Rosy”) Brewer’s invite-only party in Oak Beach from April 30, 2010 to May 1, 2010. One guy (married, with three children) posted “Good times”. Shannan sends her strength from above in Heaven.

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