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Alright, I’m gonna get to that post I stopped in the middle of due to Dorothy’s continued running of the comment. But first I need to address another of Jen’s emails here for all to see.  In this email sent to me yesterday , Jen wrote: “With all due respect, Zero, when I was asked to find out something, I did just that.  I don’t need to justify or defend my actions.  All that matters is that I know what I write to you is the truth. ”   

 Never posted on your blog as anything but my initials so why post that I did under some other name?  It’s not true!
Obviously your IP detecting isn’t accurate if you can’t tell it’s NOT me”.

There was more, but these were the parts I addressed in my return email and I feel what I wrote needs to be addressed here since they will fit in to this post I need to finish, here is my reply:

To Jennifer
 
Today at 12:11 PM
I’m not gonna keep addressing everything you run off about… but in my opinion ALL of you have to justify and defend your actions, and obviously quite a few other people think so too. And as for the IP addresses… someone purposely uses places like Mc Donalds to post stuff, the use of mobile devices from free internet sites like these makes it impossible to be sure, but I know the key players now, and I know who had what info when, and well that makes it pretty easy for some of us to put 2 and 2 together. But go on joining the others blaming each other and not taking your spot where you belong in this. It will all be exposed eventually, that I am 99% sure of.
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Where Do We Go From Here?

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So I have read my fill at old LISK.com and reread some of the stuff from when I first got there earlier this year. I get it. Flukeyou pulled some people in and they shared screen names and misinformation. Remember early on we have Fieldnotes and Truthspider as well. The tree starts there, well somewhere Jen and Susie are there as well. (Remember Susie) All of these connect to Mari, some have met her and are helping her others are from Facebook and wanting to help. Who was there to actually help and who was there for other reasons I do not know for sure, but hindsight sure does help us see a few things.  I realize the fact that the phone call that was made to Mari from the doctor and his denial of it  plays a key role in all of this early on. And so does 48 hours, where a lot of us got the same story about the doctor. Before I ever came to LISK.com I was like who is this doctor and what does he know? And with LISK.com here is Fluke to put a personal touch on all the questions people had about the doc. And he had fake screen names and maybe a few of the already mentioned names to help spread his knowledge of the Doc and many other neighbors. And early on we have people, neighbors of Fluke and the Doc maybe, but definitely people with reason to doubt Flukes stories. And they start in trying to defluke him and also maybe figure out why he is saying some of the things he is. So here we have 2 sides of at least a few people using the sites lack of screen name security and a game begins.

Then there are the other readers here, having to figure out who is who and what their agenda is. Some of them pick sides. But the game gets really out there and many leave for different reasons. But the core remains, and when MM7 get’s  involved it really gets crazy. (I’m not sure how long DPH was involved or who put who in touch, but she was in there somewhere “helping”)

So MM7 has her reasons to think it’s the Doc long before her involvement with anyone I have mentioned above. So did I, as I mentioned above.

But watching 48 hours and reading news stories had quite a few people looking suspicious. The john, the driver, the doctor. Yes some suspicious people, how could they all be cleared? I, like many thought these things when we saw or read what was being said about this case. But after her getting involved with Flukeyou and working the case with Jen and Dorothy she knew 99.9% the doc was the killer, and because of that he was stalking her.

All very dramatic, but also very suspicious.

Some of the  gamers splinter, some question other’s motives. A lot of it comes to a head due to Joey not telling Cristin about his new baby? But this is just part of the onslaught of things  now being posted in the dying days of LISK.com.

The addition of PS149 on LISK.com helped speed this up, but Too Close had been there from the beginning trying to keep the madness Fluke and company were creating from spreading. And others like Linda were sick of the constant accusing of anyone who disagreed or found their connections questionable. My blog also came around, one more place for the show to continue. Most people just wanted the game to stop and the case to be brought back to being about the victims, the real ones not those who were victims of themselves. And I am still one of these people by the way.

There is also Websleuth, which because of my email address I can’t get an account there, I heard all the changes came there and made it much harder to become a member specifically because of  involvement of those I have mentioned above.

So back n forth it goes and it continues because the Doc is suspicious. It continues because Joey is just as suspicious. It continues because Dorothy is being used or is quite the wakko. (maybe both) It continues because Jen is either scared or sneaky. (I just can’t figure you out Jen) It continues because Cristin is either scared, played, or quite diabolical. (just my opinion, still not for sure which one applies, maybe a combo of all three)

It continues because none of the information, Joey, Cristin, Dorothy, Jen, or anyone else that was part of the games ever proved anything to anyone. It continues because you all connected and Mari at least must think one of you is hiding something or knows something, I will not speak for her, but if I was her I would be questioning all of you.

This is what I know and I doubt anyone will change my thoughts on any of this. There is still much I don’t know. There is still all the crazy screen names which is a lot more difficult to understand. And I know what I have wrote is just a general idea of what went on. I mean there is a lot more to Fieldnotes involvement in all this and when he tried to back away from it he became a child molester and a LISK suspect, so getting his side of this would be helpful, but it’s understandable why he doesn’t want any part of this any more. I don’t know much about the original Truthspider, Brenden right? Is he still involved in this somewhere? I remember cryptic posts about lifeguards and Fluke and Spider being friends.  Still so much cryptic stuff out there, which is startling when you put it up against the ongoing case and the cryptic parts of it.

Was an Oak Beach resident involved in any of murders? If so was it someone posting on LISK.com? We won’t know these answers till the case is solved. But Joey sure convinced a few people that there is something to doc putting himself into the middle of the case, unfortunately or maybe fortunately doing so also put him questionably “in the middle of the case”.

But where do I go from here with this blog?

I will post the remaining 200+ comments for those interested in reading the rest of them, though other then some virus talk, it’s a lot of the same thing. There are a few other posts with comments that I might put up here, again for those interested in reading them.

But really from here the only place to go is to continue focusing on those I know were involved here and I believe could be a little more light shedding if they wanted to be. We know who they all are, I can’t keep going over and over the things they want to keep circling around, I need to help push forward.

So let’s all enjoy our Thanksgiving and then I’ll focus in on Joey and his gang.

Confusion or More Games

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Well I’d like to get back to the Summer of 2011 and other screen names, but this JJ one has found some road blocks. As Cristin commented, Jen has said she used the screen name jj when on LISK.com. And this JJ is easily confused with it. I myself had to rewrite that last post 3 times because of the confusion. But I do see that there is a JJ and a jj commenting in the month of April. I have posted the JJ ones (see last post) which I believe come from Jim Jones, they speak of CPH and going to LE. Now the jj’s I found in April are as follows:

LISK Jen3LISK Jen2LISK Jen1

Now I think confusion solved, 2 different screen names, just similar enough to be seen as the same. JJ comments on who the killer is and jj comments on how the site needs to focus on positive helpful things rather than where it is going. So one could easily say we found Jim Jone’s first comments as well as Jen’s.

Accept Jen has just written me telling me none of these are hers, JJ is Jim Jones and this jj is someone pretending to be her.

WHAT?

Why was someone trying to be Jen so early on, and why can’t I find any earlier postings by jj?  There would need to be in order for someone to think there was a reason to pretend to be her. And why pretend to be Jen just to write about how the site is changing?

Regardless Jen insists she did not write these and does not want me or any of the comments to associate them with her.

So be it, common sense aside, here is a look at the first known fake screen name, pretending to be Jen  already in April of 2011.

Sorry if this has lost you, it’s hard to explain any clearer than this.

Right from the beginning games being played.

Let’s move on, and back to the Summer of 2011. Let’s see if we can find some other first comments.

The Doctor Is In

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So JJ may be Jim Jones, that is who I am told at least.  Is JJ Jim Jones? There are posts on here by Jim Jones as well.  Maybe he started as JJ and moved on to Jim Jones. Whoever JJ is, their first posts in April might have set everything in motion.

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All these early posts make me wonder if someone was watching and looking for recruits. Some one fishing perhaps. And these early posters got caught. Let’s take a closer look at this first post and the 7 comments made on it. You might be surprised at what get’s brought up. Some of you might not.

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