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I started reading back over this blog in preparation for my final posts here. The blog itself is separated in three parts. The first part I was really trying to just figure out all the screen names and real names. In March of 2013 in one of my first posts I discussed trolls and sock-puppets:

So, they are close to the same thing, the general difference being, the reason they do it.  A sock puppet has motives behind what they do, while trolls just like to mess with people. At least that’s how I read it.

And to me I see reason to believe both were/are going on here. The hard part is deciphering between the 2. One or more of these posters are very good at what they do. It is almost impossible to know who is who. There are some ways, which we will later discus, to connect them however.  But now that sites and posts are disappearing it is a little harder to do.  It’s a Riddle Wrapped In A Mystery Inside An Enigma.  Shall we get started?

And for some of the name game, it is still a puzzle to me. But I now think less troll activity was involved than I originally thought. At least not just random trollness. All the many screen names aside, the many “real” names thrown out in comments and posts were sometimes just as confusing to me. As I tried to explain in a post in April of 2013:

So what I’m getting at is, even though all these names have been “leaked”, I have no proof that any of these names are real or at least really anyone involved in these posts.

So I will use them when needed, after all they have already been thrown out there, and not by me. But I am not trying to endanger anyone or use names of people who have nothing to do with this, so feel free to ask me to remove anything that you might feel is fraudulent or personal info of yourself that you do not want out there.

I was trying to figure out who everyone was that was being thrown out there, but a lot of times they were just names to me, I had no idea who they really were.

The second part of the blog comes after I have a little better understanding of who is who and focused mainly on trying to figure out game and agenda. In May of 2013 I wrote:

So I’m often asked why I blog about these different screen names and people I know nothing about. And I have answered this many times, but to truly simplify the answer, I’m looking for some kind of conclusion. I know that may not come, but I’ll be here bugging everyone till it does. (don’t quote me on that)

And for the most part at that time I continued to blog about this because I was just looking for some sort of end to the story. The thing that would bring the who’s, what’s, and why’s together. During this time I realized some of this had been going on for a long time and that the game part of this was somewhat connected to the actual LISK case. Flukeyou really was Joey, and he really was a neighbor or Dr. Hackett. That other locals were also behind some of the screen names and that an Oak Beach neighbor dispute not only played out in the comments of LISK.com but had been going on for years and now seemed to have found its way into the LISK case. That many of those involved in the games and agendas had centered themselves right into the actual case. Joey, Dorothy, Jen, Cristin, and quite a few others had spoken to Mari and/or her lawyer as well as others in the LISK case. These games and agendas were not just some internet posts. I realized much more of what was happening was in emails and phone calls, the posts and comments were only a show most of the time. The more people who started commenting on my blog led me to contact with some of these commenters. This second part concludes when I realize that all though I could see there were games being played, and although I could see who some of the players were. I was not going to be able to prove it to any one but myself. No one was coming clean on their own, though Jen and Cristin did help a lot with what they did come out with. Joey and Dorothy have never stopped playing game once on these sites and blogs. And still so many screen names unclaimed. But I felt it was as far as it could go at that point.

During this second part of the blog and while the blog was on pause for a few months, I did continue to share emails with people. Made some contacts on Facebook. Someone told me about the “way back machine” and how it could be used to read old LISK.com posts. The more I knew about people, the real people in this with no agendas other than wanting the truth to come out and some of the games and agendas to be exposed for what they were. The more I read old LISK.com stuff. the more I felt the blog was incomplete. LISK.com and Catching LISK were both gone by this time but I still felt something could be learned by looking closer at both these sites and the people who created them as well as the one person who dominated both places with their agenda, Flukeyou. And that is what I did on the third part of this blog. I dug in deep to the early LISK.com stuff. Spoke with quite a few of the earlier commenters there. Understanding LISK.com, its creator, and what went on there was not quite the big mystery. Most of the people who were part of it had already gone through the whole who is who game, and many knew who each of the others were. So getting behind any LISK.com mysteries went rather quickly once I started in this third time. Leaving me mainly just 2 questions about it, who was PS149 who posted at LISK.com in it’s final days and why did Flukeyou use the site to sensationalize what ever suspicions he had about his doctor neighbor? We may never learn who that PS149 was. And it is probably more important to understand why Fluke did what he did.

And as we all know Fluke continues the accusations of conspiracy and coverup on MM7’s blog “Catching LISK”. It was a little harder to blog about what went on there because I had to go from memory and the few things I had saved from it. But then MM7 sent me access to her blog. I was shocked and even told her I couldn’t understand why she would have sent it to me. But I was glad she did. I was able to continue the blog showing how Flukeyou continued his agenda on Catching LISK.  Of course “Catching LISK” is a lot more difficult to figure out even with the whole blog in front of you. Part is due to commenters like NERD who take the blog for a wild ride and part is due to MM7’s claims of being stalked at least one of these commenters. In this third part of my blog I learned quite a bit more about the creators of the 2 sites I blogged about. I understood more of why these sites were made and why they were taken down. It seemed that this third part to the blog (the final part?) too must come to an end. And that is what I am attempting to now do. But as I look back over my blog and choose my final word for the final posts I feel I must once again say that I stand by this blog and the journey it describes. And I once again ask, that if you are going to judge this blog, please read it in its entirety, see my growth and understanding with each post. Remember this is from an outsiders view with no inside information or knowledge about anything. A lot of the time I am playing catch up with most of you that read and comment here, so you can see my blog through your own eyes and understanding of what went on here (here being my blog and the blogs and sites I wrote about). By reading the entire blog I think you can see clearer the conclusions I came to about LISK.com, Catching LISK, and all those who participated in them. Are they the right ones? You tell me.

I also ask that you bare with me for just a few more posts, and please be patient, I want to be as clear as possible in wrapping this blog up.

DPH Sighting

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I might have to start a whole new blog dedicated to DPH sightings! Here is the latest left on my Facebook page:

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Oh Dorothy, you are so confused. Too many have put stuff in your head. Jen, Cristin, Joey, and who ever else decided to look past your obvious break with reality and use you to help there agendas. Every one seems to know you are crazy and that is just the way it is. No one can stop you.

Well, I’m not going anywhere tell someone shuts you up. What you are doing is wrong. People out there reading your garbage you put out everywhere don’t know you and might actually think there is something to your many accusations.

You quickly (and vaguely) accuse me of crimes, something you have no problem doing to anyone who questions your screwed up comments. You know me from a nick name and what I have written, nothing would give you any reasons to think I was involved in criminal activity (no mug shots of me up yet, how bout your team?). For this reason alone I know you are full of sh*t, as does every one else who you thrown into you’re burning fire.  Even your so-called “team” says you sound crazy.

So Dorothy, while others shy away from you and are afraid to stand up to you, I am not. And if your friends Nancy and Todd want to bring themselves into this (so many people to follow suit after the Doc) then let them become part of my ever-growing lists of suspicious people.

DPH Sighting

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https://www.facebook.com/NFIGA

Here is the latest place Dorothy is posting BS comments about her ex and LISK info that is not true. This is Nancy, I don’t know her, but she has been making comments on my Facebook page defending Dorothy. Then she accused me of being the person behind the John Doe Facebook page. LOL. I am not a fan, nor a sleuther, nor someone trying to help anyone out here. I am someone who read what I read and called people out on it. Again, Nancy, read my blog please before questioning me or what my motives are.

Here’s what Dorothy had to say on Nancy’s page (let’s see how long before it is taken down).

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It’s like a broken record with that one. And now Nancy is invited on that team of hers. Cristin was on that team, right? We all know what Cristin has said her work on that team amounted to… So Nancy I would do some checking before I joined Team Dorothy.

DPH Sighting

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Well, once again it looks like Dorothy, Joey, and Cristin are all on that same track. Thanks to the 3 of them the Doc is about to be nailed to the wall for his involvement in Shannan’s death. And they will be heroes. They were right all along. Of course this is not what I hear, but let’s wait and see before making any rash statements.

I’d like to see everyone who claims to know what happened to Shannan put under oath and asked about their activities of that early May morning. I urge all of Oak Beach neighbors to come forward with ANYTHING they may know. Let’s find out once and for all if Joey or the Doc had anything to do with Shannan’s death.

I also would add, that if Joey and his crew are wrong, and nothing comes out of this lawsuit, then I suggest Mari sue Joey Scalise Jr. for something, I’m not a lawyer, but something to do with evidence tampering or something. I mean if the Doc is looked at because of his phone call and the idea that he said to a reporter that he saw Shannan “running away distressed” (which I have yet to see. Some did say they saw Shannan running away distressed, so there may be some misinformation or confusion here, but if there is proof the Doc said he saw Shannan that night, then yes that would be more lies the Doc is caught in and is probably hiding something, but again I have not seen it, which doesn’t matter as long as the proper people do), well then Joey’s telling of where Shannan’s stuff would be found, or where Shannan’s body would be found, or the numerous statements he has made on Cristin’s blog and LISK.com as other screen names alone, is reasons enough to have Joey put up under a microscope of the media and LE. Put Cristin and Jen up on the stand and make them tell their story under oath, I’d like to hear it. Use this blog as exhibit A.  And then get LISK.com and MM7’s “Catching LISK” blog as exhibit B and C.

All I’m saying is, if The Doc comes out of this lawsuit and nothing more is learned from it, then it is time to take a look at Joey and all those involved in feeding information to Mari and J.R . that is wrong (if the case so proves this). Their activities seem just as suspicious as any one else in this case.

Joey’s Comments

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Although Cristin didn’t let through many comments from those who spoke against what she blogged or had information that went against the Joey Agenda, she let him put his twisted stuff up every time. Although Cristin complained that those who posted some questionable stuff in her blogs comments must be a serial killer and stalking her, she let Joey’s comments that used the same tactics and were just as obscene, in her logic why didn’t she see Joey as a serial killer and quite possibly her stalker? Here are some of Joey’s first comments on MM7’s blog:

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Joey Agenda! Cristin had no problem letting Flukeyou continue the game on her blog. Including using sock puppets with real people’s names. People Cristin knew nothing about, but that didn’t matter to her:

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Why was it alright for Joey to use fake screen names, post info on his neighbors, and say some really disturbing thing? And yet when others did these things they were stalkers and killers. Why? Cristin not only let comments like these through,  but she felt no need to let others reading your blog that they come from Joey. Read these next comments by him and hopefully you might see your beloved Joey in a new light:

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If Joey can use fake screen names to write some messed up stuff, why don’t you believe he could have written some of the other messed up stuff? I’m beginning to understand why you don’t like me, I’m like “kryptonite to a hypocrite”.

Hey Joey, you still reading? I hope so ’cause I wanna share what I find as the most pitiful comment you wrote:

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You actually use the Doc’s wife as a sock puppet screen name to praise you own mom. Now that’s f*cked up! Maybe you need some more time on the couch…

Mysterymom7 Has Left The Buillding

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So I was gonna leave this till after the holidays, give myself some time to do other things. But reading over MM7’s blog had me going and I left some comments that have struck a nerve. When will I learn?

The comment didn’t surprise me though, because earlier today I got a text on my phone. It was from Cristin. It read:

You lost my help by bringing up Mari. You’re gonna get someone hurt and I want no part in that. I deleted my blog so nobody can get info on anyone else from what was written on my blog or in any comments. There’s still a serial killer there and NOBODY knows who it is. But, hey, you keep giving him info… whether it’s to hurt someone or any case against him by being a step ahead of the “game”

I can’t let this go with out some input. I understand why bringing up Cristin telling me  Mari was behind the poll that included Michael Daughtry’s name on a list of suspects seems wrong. But Let’s not forget Cristin quickly threw it out there when I pointed out some people thought she was behind the blog.  She wrote in comments that Mari was the one behind the blog. I said I doubted that was true also in comment. Then Mari wrote that someone asked her to take it over. It was confusing, but I left it at that. But then Cristin feels the need to tell me that it was Mari all along what am I’m supposed to believe. For all I know Cristin is covering for her self or at the very least her self-preservation at any cost wants me to know she didn’t write the blog. With all the confusion I think many already were questioning who wrote this blog and Mari needs to know what people are obviously already saying behind her back.

Mari, both Jen and Cristin bring you up constantly in emails. Cristin told me she was on the phone with you when I sent you that message on Facebook. I’m pretty sure both of them have  sent me stuff that they tell me was from your “secret group page”. And most of it contains stuff written by you. I will have to do some searching to find these emails, and I don’t want to put them up here but if Mari or John Ray want to message me at:https://www.facebook.com/zerosworld I am happy to forward them any emails that have such screen shots in them. But please do not trust either of them, they are eager to pass on anything you or anyone else has said or written to help further themselves. And I do believe those involved in this game are in it only for themselves, that’s why none of them can come to admit their true parts in this.

Of course if you go by my recent email from Cristin, her part in this has always been working for John Ray:

When it came to the case, I was basically a freelance PI for John Ray when it came to Hackett. Because I truly believe he’s a serial killer, and at the very LEAST, responsible for Shannan’s death. It was never about JS. When I had thoroughly investigated a particular topic of importance (like Beachscapes), I compiled the information and emailed it to John Ray.

She even told me there is a “phantom tape” that she was asked to get for John Ray:

Did you not read what I wrote? I never saw the video, so I wouldn’t know if it was a quote or a sound bite or what. The whole point of sending this info to John Ray was so he could get the unedited video, because I couldn’t. If he was going off that claim (that Hackett said he saw Shannan running sick and distressed), he should see it/hear it himself.

As you can see I was a little confused with what she is trying to tell me. Is there such a tape?

Let me remind everyone Cristin posted court documents from the case she says John Ray had her  helping with. She leaked all sorts of one-sided info from the case to her blog. If she was truly helping John Ray with the case why the need for the blog in the first place? Seems the case should be tried in court and not on her blog. But maybe that’s just me.

So if John Ray was using Cristin to help dig up info on CPH I hope he learned his lesson. All Cristin had to do was see the name Charles in the news and she would just assumed it must be the Doc. As she did in her post about Amanda Byrnes. I had asked her where she got her info that CPH was involved with the Amanda story and she told me that the flyer had said the name ‘Charles” and therefore thought it could be him. Great detective work. She has admitted to posting things without reading them and her PI skills are as bad as her understanding of psychology. I can’t find a place where she admits to posting something she didn’t read, but I believe I have seen her say that about things she posted on LISK.com. I did find a comment where Too Close mentions this. It’s one of those comments MM7 didn’t let through on her blog:

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No one should be relying on her for information.

All this being said, I will miss Mysterymom7. She was played hard, but reading back over her blog, she may have got what she had coming. People told her they were playing her, she just didn’t let those comments through. In fact she didn’t let a lot of comments through that could have helped others to see the game better. Too Close From Home had made several comments to counter things being written there, but again Cristin just didn’t let those comments through.

I’m a little puzzled to why you let me see all the comments you didn’t let through Cristin, you must have known that I would read them and wonder why you didn’t let them through. Just shows again how you just don’t quite grasp things and again why people need to be careful before they believe anything you “find” using your “detective skills”.

Did she really delete her blog this time? As I always say time will tell. But Cristin don’t be mad at me for being honest about what I have read and been told. You think what I am doing is just as bad or worse than your blog and it might get people hurt. Your blog was based on game and lies and did hurt people. I don’t see my blog that way. So we will just have to agree to disagree. But I will take some time and think about whether to continue on without Joey’s whack pack in tow.

If this is good-bye Cristin, then I’ll leave you with some Eminem lyrics. I’m not sure why so many Eminem lyrics were left on your blog, but I think these fit here:

I guess we are who we are
Headlights shining in the dark night I drive on
Maybe we took this too far

Stop Denying Games

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Ok… Junior is not playing games, Jen is not playing games, Cristin is not playing games. All of you played games together, we just have to go to another blog to prove this. And I will right now.

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These are both from MM7’s blog Catching LISK. Most of us already knew Flukeyou was posting there as Barbara H. but it wasn’t till recently that Cristin came clean with this. Take a look at his post. Called Cristin a bitch, guess that’s ok during game play. How is this not game? And how is it not believing Joey’s ideas, these are his ideas and you (Cristin) let him post them time and time again on your blog, knowing full well it was him.

Now the second one you might not know is Jen (although I’m sure she’ll deny it, just don’t know where since she is no longer emailing me and won’t comment here either.) And if this comment left by BablonBabyDoll isn’t a clear case of sock puppetry then maybe I need to show more. Pretending to be an outsider and not know who MM7 is. Wow Jen, no wonder you kept not believing me to be an outsider, you knew first hand some of you were pretending to be an outsider to keep the game going.

Join the side of truth, be humble and admit to what you all did wrong, but help us clear it up so we know if it has any thing to do with Shannan’s death. Other wise you will continue to look shady. That’s to all of you.

MM7’s First Post?

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The name Cristin is known to all of us now, but back on May 3rd 2011 this was not so. So I’ll ask straight forward is this you’re first post MM7? It’s much earlier than you said you posted on LISK.com. Is this the beginning of it all in this post? If so who commented on it?

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Daugherty? Another name now familiar to me. Are connections being made this early? Are these post pre-game posts? Let’s go a little further back to the first post by a screen name that is also familiar to me. And the comments on this one once again set it all up.

For MM7, Jen, & Dorothy

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Originally I was gonna address each of you separately but I know with each post things would be said and it might take a while to get all 3 out there. So let’s do all of you at once, OK? I know the three of you like to share, you share info about people you don’t with each other and you share info about each other with people you don’t know. All good then.

MM7- You claim to not being liked to be called a liar, but you seem to like to skate the truth enough that you should understand why some people might see you this way (again I urge you to look up the tale of “The Little Boy Who Cried Wolf”) Listen, from here on out although you don’t need to prove any thing to any one, I doubt you’ll get many people to believe any thing you say on this subject without it. I don’t even know what you really believe anymore. Is there a CRIME RING? Was there really any proof of that or just more heresay? Is there any proof of Dorothy’s husband being involved in the LISK case or is this more smoke and mirrors? You say now Linda is not involved, but your Facebook still mentions her, so please help me out here, why not just apologise for your treatment of Linda and move on and not mention her any more, or is this just more slight of hand and you really do think Linda is CPH?  You have made so many misleading statements I really don’t know where you stand anymore. Maybe because you no longer have a place to stand.

Jen- You say you want to help Mari and expose MM7, then come out of the shadows and do so, but as with MM7, your games and misdirection makes it hard to believe any thing you say. You knew of MM7’s 2008 “VENT” blog, so why shouldn’t the obvious deduction be that you are PS149? Or did you give the blog info to him/her as you did to me? Or did they give it to you maybe? How is it that MM7 forgot about this blog but you knew all about it?  Fishy, fishy, fishy. If you have nothing to hide and you just want to stop MM7 (this is starting to sound like my post to PS149, go figure) then just come out and do it. Don’t keep sending out bits of stuff here and there. The cloak and dagger stuff is not needed, “the truth will set you free”, but only if you want it too.

Dorothy-  You are quite the judgmental one aren’t ya?  That is your biggest downfall. The bible is a great tool for bettering you own life, but when used to judge others and condemn people who don’t agree with you to “fire and brimstone” well then it’s just a hateful book. Like most things in life religion is more about yourself then other people. You would do well to learn this and stop spitting hate at people. Also if you husband did all the things you say he did then stop posting it on here and do something about it. Learn from MM7’s mistake of posting things about scorned love, it will bite you in the end. I am seriously thinking about getting more involved in your story. The things you said are ither very scary and you need people to start helping you with this instead of using your failed marriage as their own personal tool to link others to the madness. Or they are delusional and again some one needs to help you. Or, and I hope this is not the case, they are lies that you are using for some reason yet unseen.  This is such a tough one because you actually are going through something, and it needs to be dealt with and not manipulated.

The game is up girls, and I think you know it. Of course you probably won’t admit it, but it doesn’t matter. Unless any of your many twisted accusations and stories of stalking and bullying are ever proven (and let’s face it, so far that’s not looking very good) then it’s nothing more than a Caucus Race.

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For The Reader

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This blog still gets lots of views daily. I don’t know if all the readers of this blog  are mentioned somewhere in it or if I actually have other outsiders reading. But this is for them if they are out there. This is also for anyone still reading, who came over from MM7’s blog or LISK.com but are not mentioned anywhere in this blog. I hope there is a few at least. So again, this is for you, the reader who is not involved.
Depending on how long you have been reading or how much you have read, you may have seen me write early on that because of all the e-mails, phone calls, etc. done behind the scenes it was impossible for someone just reading to tell what was really going on. With everyone conspiring in secret, what was coming out in public form could not be trusted.  Even when I first started blogging about it I did not want to get caught up in that because I knew it was a twisted scene.

So at first, like you, I read what was written in public and that was what I had to go by. Even in my blog, if someone wanted to correct me or explain something, it was done in public form in the comments. I eventualy decided to send a few emails as I have talked about before, but I still stayed away from that web I knew was out there. But again, behind the scenes things were happening.

After LISK.com was down, while both my blog and MM7’s blog were both up a falling out was happening. In public we all read about MM7 distancing herself from  Flukeyou, but what none of us knew was MM7 and Jen were the ones about to break up. It is a little funny now, that it is this falling out that would lead to me getting wrapped up in the behind the scenes stuff which would then lead me to know about this falling out. See? Twisted.

MM7 and Jen were working together, in fact they both tell me that Jen introduced Joey  (Flukeyou) to Cristin (MM7).  I think MM7 believes Jen was trying to set her up the whole time and expose her to Mari. This brings someone named Susie into the story. I have no idea who Susie is (and that doesn’t mean I need anyone to tell me who she is, I know who YOU all say she is, I just mean I have never seen her comment nor have I had any contact with her) From what I gather MM7 thought this Susie was saying MM7 was writing a book but now believes it was Jen who did this. Whether Jen and Cristin’s fall out was because Jen no longer wanted to work with Cristin or that Jen had all along been pretending to work with her to prove she was lying about her motives, the outcome is the same. Jen starts sending me emails to discredit Cristin. At first I didn’t think much about it, others had already told me MM7 was ither mislead or straight up deceitful. But the more e-mails the more I could see, that Jen and Cristin were playing the kind of games I had been saying all along was going on. And Cristin always hated that I called what I saw going on in her blog and LISK.com a game. And here was the tip of the abyss right here, but I knew that because of  all of the behind the scenes emails, phone calls, IM’s and Skypes it was now a huge mess and I did not want to sort it out.

So I sent a message to Mari, to tell her about how I thought people were playing games on the internet with info from her court case and google sleuthing. I told her I felt I needed to let her know because these people led me to believe they had contact with her, those being Cristin, Jen, and Dorothy. I did not say anything really negative about them, just that she/Mari  should look into what they were saying about each other if she wasn’t already. I don’t know how my message was received, I’m not real good at messages, no spell checks kill me, plus I really did not want to bother her so I’m not sure I came across right. Also these three have actual contact with her, and I have no idea what they might say about me.

We all know the outcome from there, Mari commented on my blog and I got a lot more e-mails from Jen, Dorothy, and Cristin. I mean lots and most of them quite lengthy.  Some of them filling in all the behind the scene gaps. Bam! I was now stuck in this web of e-mails. And all though there is quite a bit of honesty in these e-mails, everyone tells it as if they are the victim. You can’t all be victims… in fact even with all three of them sending me their side of things I still feel as I stated long before I had this good of grasp on what was going on here, and that’s none of you are victims, not really. Mari and her search for truth are the victims here. Yep still don’t see it any differently then I did before all of these e-mails from people who somehow think they are victims in this, something all three of them put them selves into.

I don’t know if this helps clear anything up for the other outsiders out there, but I have a few more messages for those more involved here and there will probably be comments below with another perspective, so keep reading… good insights still to come.