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I started reading back over this blog in preparation for my final posts here. The blog itself is separated in three parts. The first part I was really trying to just figure out all the screen names and real names. In March of 2013 in one of my first posts I discussed trolls and sock-puppets:

So, they are close to the same thing, the general difference being, the reason they do it.  A sock puppet has motives behind what they do, while trolls just like to mess with people. At least that’s how I read it.

And to me I see reason to believe both were/are going on here. The hard part is deciphering between the 2. One or more of these posters are very good at what they do. It is almost impossible to know who is who. There are some ways, which we will later discus, to connect them however.  But now that sites and posts are disappearing it is a little harder to do.  It’s a Riddle Wrapped In A Mystery Inside An Enigma.  Shall we get started?

And for some of the name game, it is still a puzzle to me. But I now think less troll activity was involved than I originally thought. At least not just random trollness. All the many screen names aside, the many “real” names thrown out in comments and posts were sometimes just as confusing to me. As I tried to explain in a post in April of 2013:

So what I’m getting at is, even though all these names have been “leaked”, I have no proof that any of these names are real or at least really anyone involved in these posts.

So I will use them when needed, after all they have already been thrown out there, and not by me. But I am not trying to endanger anyone or use names of people who have nothing to do with this, so feel free to ask me to remove anything that you might feel is fraudulent or personal info of yourself that you do not want out there.

I was trying to figure out who everyone was that was being thrown out there, but a lot of times they were just names to me, I had no idea who they really were.

The second part of the blog comes after I have a little better understanding of who is who and focused mainly on trying to figure out game and agenda. In May of 2013 I wrote:

So I’m often asked why I blog about these different screen names and people I know nothing about. And I have answered this many times, but to truly simplify the answer, I’m looking for some kind of conclusion. I know that may not come, but I’ll be here bugging everyone till it does. (don’t quote me on that)

And for the most part at that time I continued to blog about this because I was just looking for some sort of end to the story. The thing that would bring the who’s, what’s, and why’s together. During this time I realized some of this had been going on for a long time and that the game part of this was somewhat connected to the actual LISK case. Flukeyou really was Joey, and he really was a neighbor or Dr. Hackett. That other locals were also behind some of the screen names and that an Oak Beach neighbor dispute not only played out in the comments of LISK.com but had been going on for years and now seemed to have found its way into the LISK case. That many of those involved in the games and agendas had centered themselves right into the actual case. Joey, Dorothy, Jen, Cristin, and quite a few others had spoken to Mari and/or her lawyer as well as others in the LISK case. These games and agendas were not just some internet posts. I realized much more of what was happening was in emails and phone calls, the posts and comments were only a show most of the time. The more people who started commenting on my blog led me to contact with some of these commenters. This second part concludes when I realize that all though I could see there were games being played, and although I could see who some of the players were. I was not going to be able to prove it to any one but myself. No one was coming clean on their own, though Jen and Cristin did help a lot with what they did come out with. Joey and Dorothy have never stopped playing game once on these sites and blogs. And still so many screen names unclaimed. But I felt it was as far as it could go at that point.

During this second part of the blog and while the blog was on pause for a few months, I did continue to share emails with people. Made some contacts on Facebook. Someone told me about the “way back machine” and how it could be used to read old LISK.com posts. The more I knew about people, the real people in this with no agendas other than wanting the truth to come out and some of the games and agendas to be exposed for what they were. The more I read old LISK.com stuff. the more I felt the blog was incomplete. LISK.com and Catching LISK were both gone by this time but I still felt something could be learned by looking closer at both these sites and the people who created them as well as the one person who dominated both places with their agenda, Flukeyou. And that is what I did on the third part of this blog. I dug in deep to the early LISK.com stuff. Spoke with quite a few of the earlier commenters there. Understanding LISK.com, its creator, and what went on there was not quite the big mystery. Most of the people who were part of it had already gone through the whole who is who game, and many knew who each of the others were. So getting behind any LISK.com mysteries went rather quickly once I started in this third time. Leaving me mainly just 2 questions about it, who was PS149 who posted at LISK.com in it’s final days and why did Flukeyou use the site to sensationalize what ever suspicions he had about his doctor neighbor? We may never learn who that PS149 was. And it is probably more important to understand why Fluke did what he did.

And as we all know Fluke continues the accusations of conspiracy and coverup on MM7’s blog “Catching LISK”. It was a little harder to blog about what went on there because I had to go from memory and the few things I had saved from it. But then MM7 sent me access to her blog. I was shocked and even told her I couldn’t understand why she would have sent it to me. But I was glad she did. I was able to continue the blog showing how Flukeyou continued his agenda on Catching LISK.  Of course “Catching LISK” is a lot more difficult to figure out even with the whole blog in front of you. Part is due to commenters like NERD who take the blog for a wild ride and part is due to MM7’s claims of being stalked at least one of these commenters. In this third part of my blog I learned quite a bit more about the creators of the 2 sites I blogged about. I understood more of why these sites were made and why they were taken down. It seemed that this third part to the blog (the final part?) too must come to an end. And that is what I am attempting to now do. But as I look back over my blog and choose my final word for the final posts I feel I must once again say that I stand by this blog and the journey it describes. And I once again ask, that if you are going to judge this blog, please read it in its entirety, see my growth and understanding with each post. Remember this is from an outsiders view with no inside information or knowledge about anything. A lot of the time I am playing catch up with most of you that read and comment here, so you can see my blog through your own eyes and understanding of what went on here (here being my blog and the blogs and sites I wrote about). By reading the entire blog I think you can see clearer the conclusions I came to about LISK.com, Catching LISK, and all those who participated in them. Are they the right ones? You tell me.

I also ask that you bare with me for just a few more posts, and please be patient, I want to be as clear as possible in wrapping this blog up.

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Joey’s Comments

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Although Cristin didn’t let through many comments from those who spoke against what she blogged or had information that went against the Joey Agenda, she let him put his twisted stuff up every time. Although Cristin complained that those who posted some questionable stuff in her blogs comments must be a serial killer and stalking her, she let Joey’s comments that used the same tactics and were just as obscene, in her logic why didn’t she see Joey as a serial killer and quite possibly her stalker? Here are some of Joey’s first comments on MM7’s blog:

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Joey Agenda! Cristin had no problem letting Flukeyou continue the game on her blog. Including using sock puppets with real people’s names. People Cristin knew nothing about, but that didn’t matter to her:

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Why was it alright for Joey to use fake screen names, post info on his neighbors, and say some really disturbing thing? And yet when others did these things they were stalkers and killers. Why? Cristin not only let comments like these through,  but she felt no need to let others reading your blog that they come from Joey. Read these next comments by him and hopefully you might see your beloved Joey in a new light:

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If Joey can use fake screen names to write some messed up stuff, why don’t you believe he could have written some of the other messed up stuff? I’m beginning to understand why you don’t like me, I’m like “kryptonite to a hypocrite”.

Hey Joey, you still reading? I hope so ’cause I wanna share what I find as the most pitiful comment you wrote:

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You actually use the Doc’s wife as a sock puppet screen name to praise you own mom. Now that’s f*cked up! Maybe you need some more time on the couch…

The 69 IP

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So I guess we will be moving on to Mysterymom7’s blog “Catching LISK”.  But before we do, we need to talk about the “69 IP”.  There are 582 comments on Cristin’s blog all coming from this one IP. They used screen names from Flukeyou to C Peter Hackett. And who ever it is loved to keep MM7 guessing. Although they do use PS149 as some of their screen names, I do not believe it to be the PS149 from websleuth or LISK.com. They wrote on my blog as a few different screen names as well, but mainly as Nerd. Since this is the name they used mostly on my blog, I will use it when talking about them. MM7 believed this to be PS149 and she believed PS149 to be CPH as well as her stalker. But the comments that went too far, the ones that mentioned gutting children did not come from this IP address. MM7 still believed them to be the same person though. I’m not so sure. Those comments were ment to shock, Nerd’s comments were straight game. I mean 582 comments all twisting MM7s beliefs with each one.

On my blog they didn’t comment as much, only 31, but they are just as gamey on my blog as they were on MM7’s. The first comment they left on my blog was:

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The email is a fake. Too bad because I had sent them email to this account hoping to talk to them, but it erred. They used other emails, but I doubt any of them are real. If you are still reading Nerd, send me an email.

Now their first comment on MM7’s blog got the game up and going quickly. But here it was a lot more harder to detect who was behind what then it was on LISK.com. This is partly MM7’s fault for buying into the stalking thing, but Nerd got the ball rolling:

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Since MM7 could see the IP addresses, she should have seen right away that this person was playing her. Here are a few of the first comments left by this master game player:

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They even posted as MM7 a few times:

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MM7 should have been able to see right away that someone was playing around and confusing the situation. They go back and forth not only from screen names but also in telling MM7 she is crazy in one comment, to telling her she was on the right track in the next.

But MM7 had others in her ear as well. So she believed she must be on to something if someone is trying to shut her up so bad. Something I think she still believes. But it seems obvious (especially now) that it was all just part of the game.

Nerd if you are out there, let’s talk, but no games, don’t try to tell me you are not all these screen names or that I don’t get Ip address. That game is over, I just want to know why you hit this blog and MM7 so hard. Was it just because you didn’t like what she was doing? Did Jen or someone come to you as they did to me? Or we can just go on believing Cristin that you are CPH or PS149 and trying to silence MM7’s blog because she was on to something. Cut the game for a minute and help me understand you better.

I have much more to say about Nerd but really want to hear from them first.

And just in case someone (like Jen) still thinks I’m wrong about IP address and that these are different people posting on the blogs I give you this:

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If you look at Flukeyou’s email here you will notice it is the same as they used in the Nerd comments, just forgot to change it before posting.

So Nerd, why so many comments? You more than anyone followed MM7’s blog to an almost obsession, so you must have good reasons.

Teresa

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http://web.archive.org/web/20110820064955/http://longislandserialkiller.com/2011/08/teresa-4/

This is also around the same time as the others, summer of 2011. And the comments just once again continue the understanding of Fluke’s agenda. You could see a lot of people were not buying it.  I particularly like what Fascinated said:

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There are lots more telling comments here. You can read them for yourself. Reread them if you were there in 2011. Hindsight helps see things better.

So I rest my case on old LISK.com stuff. Was Fluke fishing for others to help his agenda against his neighbors? Did he use sock puppets to get others on this site confused and arguing amongst each other?  Did he use misinformation to mislead people reading? I say yes to all of these and he had help.

Did those against him also make sock puppets? I say yes to that as well. And it all got confusing quick and with every one who got tired of it and left another was sucked in. I’m one of those as well. But what more can we say about Fluke’s agenda? He won’t come here other than to back up Dorothy… that won’t help. If any one reading this still can’t see Flukeyou for what he has done, and how nothing he has said has been backed up by truth. If you can’t see how he has a vendetta against his neighbors. If you can’t see it all comes back to him, Flukeyou aka Joey Scalice Jr. Well, nothing more I can say will help you.

But I’ll try any ways.

200+ Comments Concluded

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So let’s get the rest of the 200+ out-of-the-way. Last comments I posted were about the red tags and they were about to get into the viruses. Shall we?

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So by the end of that first summer at LISK.com it’s owner was already thinking about taking it down. Reading through the comments to whether the site should stay or go shows us the site owner had reason to think the site was in trouble and might need to come down. Personal info, viruses, sock puppet screen names, and a neighborhood feud that was getting really nasty. But the site continued, and not much had changed by the time I found it in February of 2013. Some of the screen names were gone and some new ones were now involved but still the same thing. Flukeyou accusing his neighbors of being involved in parties and coverup of murder and yet none of it had yet to pan out. And even now, today, after LISK.com is long gone and the games have been exposed, Junior is still calling out the same crap and not one part of it has been proven and no arrests or confessions from any of the neighbors. And why won’t the neighbors help back up Juniors stories? Because they hate the Scalice’s so much they will let a murdered girls family go without knowing the truth and a killer walk free. That’s right isn’t it Fluke? They have a vendetta against you? Or is it one of your other explanations, that the Doc has something on all of them and they are afraid of him?  How did anyone buy this crap?

Please Fluke, please MM7, please anyone (accept Dorothy) tell me where I have this wrong…

Welcome Flukyou

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So the latest comments left by the screen name Flukeyou seems to truly be him. See Jen my IP detection is working.

Now I know we are dealing with game players so I could be being misled. But with info I have and info I have found on the latest Flukeyou comments, it is in deed Flukeyou. And from as far as I can tell it is the first time he has commented here.

So welcome Flukeyou!  There is so much I want to ask you, but let’s start with your latest comments. Do you really side with Dorothy and her ideas that have grown from your seeds? Because accusing your neighbors is one thing but she brings so much more to that table. So could you clear up your comments a little? Do you think Dorothy is someone to be believed? I think she linked you or your father’s gun to JB III’s suicide.  Plus I have to say I spoke with Mr. Wolf and he doesn’t seem to be connected to you or anyone else in this, could you clear that up?

Are you telling us Dorothy’s comments are FACTS?

Let’s start there.

Flukeyou a.k.a. Joey a.k.a. Junior

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Here is Fluke trying to sell his “killer on site” ideas to Linda. She was much to smart to buy this. You see it sounds like a great story. But as I mentioned in the last post, there’s no reason to think CPH was ever at LISK.com or at MM7’s blog. There’s no reason to think he was trying to “run interference” or confuse other readers at these sites. Even Cristin finally  came to the realization “today” that CPH was not there. So does any one buy Joey’s stories any more? Dorothy? She does sound like they might be in contact. But I’m beginning to think Dorothy has other reasons for her pretending to buy Joey’s games. We’ll get to that later don’t worry.

Back to Joey. Let me change his question to Linda above just a little: Who is on this site trying to run interference? Joey, it was you:

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From the beginning it was you pushing CPH=LISK. It was you calling other commenters CPH. It was you posting over and over misleading and accusing comments about your neighbors. Ideas others would later run with. Do I need to bring up how MM7 fell for the whole Poker playing Newman gag.

It’s always been you. Why? Do you really hold that much hatred for your old neighbors? Or is it more sinister?

It’s my guess if LE hasn’t found anything linking any of you yet, it may mean this all has nothing to do with the murders, but cases can go on a while before enough evidence piles up on someone. So only time and good work by LE (which I am assured is happening) will tell.

But no matter what your reasons for doing this, there’s some kind of screw loose up stairs, right?  I know I’m not the only one who thinks so. But when did it start?

Was it 1996? I think we need to look into what was happening in Oak Beach in 1996 in Juniors life.

Later though, I really must get off this computer for now. I’ll leave you with something someone once wrote to me about Junior:

 He feed BS to Mari cause he knows thats what
he says she wants to hear and know. I understand that. Poor Mari is being
played by a man who either has something to do with this all or a vendetta
toward OB

This didn’t come from LISK.com people either.

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