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As this blog comes to an end, what are we left with? Basically just my opinion on some people who went from sleuthing to slandering. At times that opinion has changed. And even though I got lots of info from articles and people’s emails and comments, it still just boils down to “My Opinion”. Half the stuff people told me, others said just the opposite, so I had to decide what to believe and what not to belive. Some may value my opinion on some of this, some may not, but for what ever reason you came here to read my opinion and I gave it.

Like I said, it changed a little at times, but when I go back and reread what I have written I think most of it holds true to the same basic belief. What is that belief? That several people were involved in some sort of game with the LISK case. That some of them did it to gain some kind of attention in the limelight. Others played back, some with good intentions, some probably not so good. At the core of some of these people is a feeling that they were wronged in life, Joey, by his neighbors who tried to out him and his family from the Oak Beach community, Nancy and Dorothy, by their ex husbands and the legal system, you get the idea. So they used this tragedy to get even and to get noticed.

Again, this is just my opinion after looking into all of you over the past year, just like some of you have looked into me and formed opinions as well. Which is fine, and if anyone cares to hear about your opinions on me, by all means tell them. Hell, write a blog about it. But remember, I wrote this blog because I felt it was wrong for people to use this tragedy for their own agendas and games, and I think most who read here would agree with that.

I have said over and over that it was not my intention to sleuth the case, but my opinions on the case can still be seen throughout this blog. Again though, just opinions. I’m not LE. I do not have the info that they have. I don’t even have the info most of you have.

Still I did not just jump in line with anything anyone was throwing out there or trying to lead me to along the way. I just kept reading and well, writing. This made some of you not like me to much at certain times (like if I didn’t agree with the proper agenda) and other times I was a hero! Truth is I was just giving my opinion on what I witnessed. On what I read. On what I saw. On what I thought.

I wish I could just post every email correspondence I have with everyone, it would then be a lot easier to not only understand my opinion, but maybe see how I came to some of it. But that just isn’t possible. I understand why some would not want me to post their emails or bring their names into this. Some are just LISK.com readers… others, well you know who you are and what we have talked about and most of you have told me  a lot of my opinions are spot on. Would I love to post those emails? Of course I would, and since some of you love saying I put all my emails up on the blog, I sometimes think I should.

Don’t get nervous, I’m not doing it. But again, those I have talked to know what we have talked about.

There is still plenty of other things I can post here, to show why I have the opinions I do about all of this. Some of this stuff you may have already seen or read, most of it was given to me by one of you, the readers and the subjects of this blog. Pretty much the same demographics, right?

Let’s start with the newest link I was given. It’s the YouTube interviews with Richard Dormer. There are quite a few of them but I think they are worth watching. For those who strongly criticized LE as either dropping the ball on this case or covering things up, this may help show, as I believe, that LE is and has always taken this case very seriously and there for have looked into every lead and everyone possibly connected to this case. Or it may not change your view at all, but I still recommend watching all of them:

http://youtu.be/nyp9xUb4ljk

http://youtu.be/qayp5RoBZHI

http://youtu.be/Y_p8cnacPlU

http://youtu.be/lqL3_93kyhE

http://youtu.be/uPfykMNJDwY

http://youtu.be/1ffjXdpV-to

http://youtu.be/ZHDbzfMsGfI

I just watched these yesterday, and there is stuff in here I wouldn’t mind discussing, pros and cons, so if anyone else who has watched them feels the same, let me know in the comments.

Of course most of what I wrote about took place on Longislandserialkiller.com. Here’s a couple threads to start with, but you can look around to see what you can find there. Since the site is down I could not find every post, but a lot is still there:

http://web.archive.org/web/20110820063936/http://longislandserialkiller.com/2011/08/message-from-the-site-admin/

http://web.archive.org/web/20130307022431/http://longislandserialkiller.com/cheryl-1-4/

Here’s some things to watch and read if you have not yet:

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-long-island-serial-killer/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/murder-or-accident-how-did-shannan-gilbert-die/

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/video/6555383-48-hours-mystery-was-shannon-gilbert-murdered-or-not/

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-long-island-serial-killer-50126790/

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/long-island-serial-killer/

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1112/09/ijvm.01.html

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/04/13/police-divers-to-continue-search-for-bodies-off-l-i-in-serial-killer-probe/

And then there are the things I was sent or found because of leading comments on my blogs, I think most who read here understand how some of these screen names involved in this over the years love to post stuff to lead you places. Is any of it connected? Maybe. But again I’m sure LE looks into any connections brought up at this point. So I’m not about to make guesses on things I could not possibly know. Sorry if this list of links is long or mixed up. I have a lot of these and I’m not gonna post links to all of them, but here’s a taste:

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/

http://bossip.com/914301/hide-ya-kids-14-year-old-bronx-girl-escapes-after-being-held-as-sex-slave-in-queens-for-3-months/

http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20130803/NEWS10/308030090/The-puzzling-case-Brandon-Todd-Steuben-Co-teen-charged-keeping-sex-slave

http://www.longislandpress.com/2013/06/03/nassau-cops-bust-104-johns-in-online-prostitution-sting/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/16/miranda-barbour-accused-craigslist-killer-confession-report_n_4797592.html

http://peopleoftheblackcircle.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-deadly-fools-of-plum-island.html

http://www.amazon.com/Last-Happy-Hour-Charles-Hackett/product-reviews/0385114710/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?showViewpoints=1

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/04/new_york_serial_killer_music_video.php

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/04/amber_lynn_costello_new_york_serial_killer.php

http://utopiaguide.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=149

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/suit-filed-by-shannan-gilbert-s-mother-mostly-tossed-by-judge-1.6642829

http://killingkillers.blogspot.com/p/gilgo-long-island-serial-killer.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/crime/2011/12/07/long-island-serial-killers-victims-are-not-disposable/

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03/21/l-i-man-accused-of-faking-his-own-death-due-in-court/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/28/raymond-roth-man-who-faked-drowning-arrested-impersonating-officer_n_2972845.html

http://www.topix.com/forum/county/suffolk-ny/TB5223F0NEOB01FV0/p43

http://www.longisland.com/news/06-27-13/update-body-found-on-gilgo-beach-is-that-of-missing-woman-natasha-jugo.html

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Missing-Woman-Syosset-Long-Island-Car-Found-Jasmine-Joseph-249541871.html

There is actually a lot more, but I think we’ll stop there. The last three links are suicides that I know some find questionable or possibly linked to the Gilgo Beach Murders. Again I have no information on things like this and can only read them and wonder myself.

Same goes for possible connection to other places like Atlantic City, Florida or New Mexico. Florida pops up again and again in things I have read. Some I have mentioned in this blog. Victims in the LISK case, bloggers, writers, POIs, etc. There are quite a few linked to all of this who live or have lived in Florida, but I have found nothing that actually connects Florida in any way but coincidence. But who knows? Until truth is known and the case is solved all possibilities are just that, possibilities. Another possibilty is a conection to the Atlantic City Murders. I didn’t know anything about the Atlantic City Murders tell I read about the Facebook pages that were made and seemed to connect them to the Gilgo Beach victims. Since then I have read quite a bit about the murders in Atlantic City, and until both cases are solved I guess it will continue to be, as many believe, possibly connected.

http://articles.philly.com/2011-04-19/news/29447411_1_profile-hugh-auslander-shannan-gilbert

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/30/atlantic.city.killings/

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/04/long_island_serial_killer_facebook_pages_atlantic_city.php

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/05/nyregion/05slay.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

http://newsblaze.com/story/20120202154151kays.nb/topstory.html

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/20/atlantic-city-authorities-eye-more-than-one-person-interest-in-2006-unsolved/

http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/cover-story/The-Fifth-Victim.html?page=2&showAll=

http://triblive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_538746.html#axzz2sJZcVOSE

http://www.philly.com/philly/video/BC51690839001.html

And what about New Mexico?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/10/five-years-after-mass-grave-discovered-albuquerque-killings-remain-unsolved/

There is so much out there so of course people will have opinions about what is connected and what isn’t.  I get that. We all get that, right? But what got me blogging my opinions, was that some people out there claimed to be working on more than opinion. Those of you who claim to know things, who write as if they are the victims and the heroes all in one, here is my final opinion for you. Your so-called knowledge should be questioned by everyone. The real connections are between those who passed around misinformation and played games with other people’s tragedies. And I think you know who those people are, in my opinion.

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Websleuths

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Websleuths is another part of this I have not mentioned much. This is because I never read there. That has changed and I recently started reading there. So far I have not found any LISK threads and have just been looking around getting a feel for the site. It seems like a good site and is run by people who do there best to keep games and agendas out of it. From what I was told and have read, just as much of this started there as it did on LISK.com but the site removed users and changed it’s set up to try to keep things on the up and up with out sock-puppet screen names and misinfo leaning towards agenda. Again, from what I’m told and have read about it. As I have said many times and one more time, I did not read or comment there.

Now that I am reading there I still don’t think I will be blogging about it since this blog is now 2 posts away from being done, plus I don’t think they like stuff being shared due to all those things the site fought hard to stop from happening.  So I heard and read. I have no intentions of breaking any rules there or brining any of the gamey stuff back there. I just want to check it out and hopefully learn. Though I don’t think what I’ve done is sleuthing, most of the stuff I looked into was about others who were sleuthing, but I did study many different aspects of the LISK case and read many others insights and opinions. And I have formed opinions of my own. And that is what sleuthing is right, studying a case and forming an opinion about it then writing that opinion? Sort of at least? So maybe I have sleuthed the case a little. I have definitely stated my opinions.

I like the site so far and hope to get new insights on this case and others there. If you are a reader here and you see me there feel free to send me a message. I’m there to learn.

Looking Back

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I started reading back over this blog in preparation for my final posts here. The blog itself is separated in three parts. The first part I was really trying to just figure out all the screen names and real names. In March of 2013 in one of my first posts I discussed trolls and sock-puppets:

So, they are close to the same thing, the general difference being, the reason they do it.  A sock puppet has motives behind what they do, while trolls just like to mess with people. At least that’s how I read it.

And to me I see reason to believe both were/are going on here. The hard part is deciphering between the 2. One or more of these posters are very good at what they do. It is almost impossible to know who is who. There are some ways, which we will later discus, to connect them however.  But now that sites and posts are disappearing it is a little harder to do.  It’s a Riddle Wrapped In A Mystery Inside An Enigma.  Shall we get started?

And for some of the name game, it is still a puzzle to me. But I now think less troll activity was involved than I originally thought. At least not just random trollness. All the many screen names aside, the many “real” names thrown out in comments and posts were sometimes just as confusing to me. As I tried to explain in a post in April of 2013:

So what I’m getting at is, even though all these names have been “leaked”, I have no proof that any of these names are real or at least really anyone involved in these posts.

So I will use them when needed, after all they have already been thrown out there, and not by me. But I am not trying to endanger anyone or use names of people who have nothing to do with this, so feel free to ask me to remove anything that you might feel is fraudulent or personal info of yourself that you do not want out there.

I was trying to figure out who everyone was that was being thrown out there, but a lot of times they were just names to me, I had no idea who they really were.

The second part of the blog comes after I have a little better understanding of who is who and focused mainly on trying to figure out game and agenda. In May of 2013 I wrote:

So I’m often asked why I blog about these different screen names and people I know nothing about. And I have answered this many times, but to truly simplify the answer, I’m looking for some kind of conclusion. I know that may not come, but I’ll be here bugging everyone till it does. (don’t quote me on that)

And for the most part at that time I continued to blog about this because I was just looking for some sort of end to the story. The thing that would bring the who’s, what’s, and why’s together. During this time I realized some of this had been going on for a long time and that the game part of this was somewhat connected to the actual LISK case. Flukeyou really was Joey, and he really was a neighbor or Dr. Hackett. That other locals were also behind some of the screen names and that an Oak Beach neighbor dispute not only played out in the comments of LISK.com but had been going on for years and now seemed to have found its way into the LISK case. That many of those involved in the games and agendas had centered themselves right into the actual case. Joey, Dorothy, Jen, Cristin, and quite a few others had spoken to Mari and/or her lawyer as well as others in the LISK case. These games and agendas were not just some internet posts. I realized much more of what was happening was in emails and phone calls, the posts and comments were only a show most of the time. The more people who started commenting on my blog led me to contact with some of these commenters. This second part concludes when I realize that all though I could see there were games being played, and although I could see who some of the players were. I was not going to be able to prove it to any one but myself. No one was coming clean on their own, though Jen and Cristin did help a lot with what they did come out with. Joey and Dorothy have never stopped playing game once on these sites and blogs. And still so many screen names unclaimed. But I felt it was as far as it could go at that point.

During this second part of the blog and while the blog was on pause for a few months, I did continue to share emails with people. Made some contacts on Facebook. Someone told me about the “way back machine” and how it could be used to read old LISK.com posts. The more I knew about people, the real people in this with no agendas other than wanting the truth to come out and some of the games and agendas to be exposed for what they were. The more I read old LISK.com stuff. the more I felt the blog was incomplete. LISK.com and Catching LISK were both gone by this time but I still felt something could be learned by looking closer at both these sites and the people who created them as well as the one person who dominated both places with their agenda, Flukeyou. And that is what I did on the third part of this blog. I dug in deep to the early LISK.com stuff. Spoke with quite a few of the earlier commenters there. Understanding LISK.com, its creator, and what went on there was not quite the big mystery. Most of the people who were part of it had already gone through the whole who is who game, and many knew who each of the others were. So getting behind any LISK.com mysteries went rather quickly once I started in this third time. Leaving me mainly just 2 questions about it, who was PS149 who posted at LISK.com in it’s final days and why did Flukeyou use the site to sensationalize what ever suspicions he had about his doctor neighbor? We may never learn who that PS149 was. And it is probably more important to understand why Fluke did what he did.

And as we all know Fluke continues the accusations of conspiracy and coverup on MM7’s blog “Catching LISK”. It was a little harder to blog about what went on there because I had to go from memory and the few things I had saved from it. But then MM7 sent me access to her blog. I was shocked and even told her I couldn’t understand why she would have sent it to me. But I was glad she did. I was able to continue the blog showing how Flukeyou continued his agenda on Catching LISK.  Of course “Catching LISK” is a lot more difficult to figure out even with the whole blog in front of you. Part is due to commenters like NERD who take the blog for a wild ride and part is due to MM7’s claims of being stalked at least one of these commenters. In this third part of my blog I learned quite a bit more about the creators of the 2 sites I blogged about. I understood more of why these sites were made and why they were taken down. It seemed that this third part to the blog (the final part?) too must come to an end. And that is what I am attempting to now do. But as I look back over my blog and choose my final word for the final posts I feel I must once again say that I stand by this blog and the journey it describes. And I once again ask, that if you are going to judge this blog, please read it in its entirety, see my growth and understanding with each post. Remember this is from an outsiders view with no inside information or knowledge about anything. A lot of the time I am playing catch up with most of you that read and comment here, so you can see my blog through your own eyes and understanding of what went on here (here being my blog and the blogs and sites I wrote about). By reading the entire blog I think you can see clearer the conclusions I came to about LISK.com, Catching LISK, and all those who participated in them. Are they the right ones? You tell me.

I also ask that you bare with me for just a few more posts, and please be patient, I want to be as clear as possible in wrapping this blog up.

The 69 IP

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So I guess we will be moving on to Mysterymom7’s blog “Catching LISK”.  But before we do, we need to talk about the “69 IP”.  There are 582 comments on Cristin’s blog all coming from this one IP. They used screen names from Flukeyou to C Peter Hackett. And who ever it is loved to keep MM7 guessing. Although they do use PS149 as some of their screen names, I do not believe it to be the PS149 from websleuth or LISK.com. They wrote on my blog as a few different screen names as well, but mainly as Nerd. Since this is the name they used mostly on my blog, I will use it when talking about them. MM7 believed this to be PS149 and she believed PS149 to be CPH as well as her stalker. But the comments that went too far, the ones that mentioned gutting children did not come from this IP address. MM7 still believed them to be the same person though. I’m not so sure. Those comments were ment to shock, Nerd’s comments were straight game. I mean 582 comments all twisting MM7s beliefs with each one.

On my blog they didn’t comment as much, only 31, but they are just as gamey on my blog as they were on MM7’s. The first comment they left on my blog was:

LISK 69 nerd

The email is a fake. Too bad because I had sent them email to this account hoping to talk to them, but it erred. They used other emails, but I doubt any of them are real. If you are still reading Nerd, send me an email.

Now their first comment on MM7’s blog got the game up and going quickly. But here it was a lot more harder to detect who was behind what then it was on LISK.com. This is partly MM7’s fault for buying into the stalking thing, but Nerd got the ball rolling:

LISK 69 IP CPH

Since MM7 could see the IP addresses, she should have seen right away that this person was playing her. Here are a few of the first comments left by this master game player:

LISK 69 TSLISK 69 FlukeLISK 69 EP

They even posted as MM7 a few times:

LISK 69 MM7

MM7 should have been able to see right away that someone was playing around and confusing the situation. They go back and forth not only from screen names but also in telling MM7 she is crazy in one comment, to telling her she was on the right track in the next.

But MM7 had others in her ear as well. So she believed she must be on to something if someone is trying to shut her up so bad. Something I think she still believes. But it seems obvious (especially now) that it was all just part of the game.

Nerd if you are out there, let’s talk, but no games, don’t try to tell me you are not all these screen names or that I don’t get Ip address. That game is over, I just want to know why you hit this blog and MM7 so hard. Was it just because you didn’t like what she was doing? Did Jen or someone come to you as they did to me? Or we can just go on believing Cristin that you are CPH or PS149 and trying to silence MM7’s blog because she was on to something. Cut the game for a minute and help me understand you better.

I have much more to say about Nerd but really want to hear from them first.

And just in case someone (like Jen) still thinks I’m wrong about IP address and that these are different people posting on the blogs I give you this:

LISK 69 Fluke nerd

If you look at Flukeyou’s email here you will notice it is the same as they used in the Nerd comments, just forgot to change it before posting.

So Nerd, why so many comments? You more than anyone followed MM7’s blog to an almost obsession, so you must have good reasons.

Mysterymom7 Has Left The Buillding

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So I was gonna leave this till after the holidays, give myself some time to do other things. But reading over MM7’s blog had me going and I left some comments that have struck a nerve. When will I learn?

The comment didn’t surprise me though, because earlier today I got a text on my phone. It was from Cristin. It read:

You lost my help by bringing up Mari. You’re gonna get someone hurt and I want no part in that. I deleted my blog so nobody can get info on anyone else from what was written on my blog or in any comments. There’s still a serial killer there and NOBODY knows who it is. But, hey, you keep giving him info… whether it’s to hurt someone or any case against him by being a step ahead of the “game”

I can’t let this go with out some input. I understand why bringing up Cristin telling me  Mari was behind the poll that included Michael Daughtry’s name on a list of suspects seems wrong. But Let’s not forget Cristin quickly threw it out there when I pointed out some people thought she was behind the blog.  She wrote in comments that Mari was the one behind the blog. I said I doubted that was true also in comment. Then Mari wrote that someone asked her to take it over. It was confusing, but I left it at that. But then Cristin feels the need to tell me that it was Mari all along what am I’m supposed to believe. For all I know Cristin is covering for her self or at the very least her self-preservation at any cost wants me to know she didn’t write the blog. With all the confusion I think many already were questioning who wrote this blog and Mari needs to know what people are obviously already saying behind her back.

Mari, both Jen and Cristin bring you up constantly in emails. Cristin told me she was on the phone with you when I sent you that message on Facebook. I’m pretty sure both of them have  sent me stuff that they tell me was from your “secret group page”. And most of it contains stuff written by you. I will have to do some searching to find these emails, and I don’t want to put them up here but if Mari or John Ray want to message me at:https://www.facebook.com/zerosworld I am happy to forward them any emails that have such screen shots in them. But please do not trust either of them, they are eager to pass on anything you or anyone else has said or written to help further themselves. And I do believe those involved in this game are in it only for themselves, that’s why none of them can come to admit their true parts in this.

Of course if you go by my recent email from Cristin, her part in this has always been working for John Ray:

When it came to the case, I was basically a freelance PI for John Ray when it came to Hackett. Because I truly believe he’s a serial killer, and at the very LEAST, responsible for Shannan’s death. It was never about JS. When I had thoroughly investigated a particular topic of importance (like Beachscapes), I compiled the information and emailed it to John Ray.

She even told me there is a “phantom tape” that she was asked to get for John Ray:

Did you not read what I wrote? I never saw the video, so I wouldn’t know if it was a quote or a sound bite or what. The whole point of sending this info to John Ray was so he could get the unedited video, because I couldn’t. If he was going off that claim (that Hackett said he saw Shannan running sick and distressed), he should see it/hear it himself.

As you can see I was a little confused with what she is trying to tell me. Is there such a tape?

Let me remind everyone Cristin posted court documents from the case she says John Ray had her  helping with. She leaked all sorts of one-sided info from the case to her blog. If she was truly helping John Ray with the case why the need for the blog in the first place? Seems the case should be tried in court and not on her blog. But maybe that’s just me.

So if John Ray was using Cristin to help dig up info on CPH I hope he learned his lesson. All Cristin had to do was see the name Charles in the news and she would just assumed it must be the Doc. As she did in her post about Amanda Byrnes. I had asked her where she got her info that CPH was involved with the Amanda story and she told me that the flyer had said the name ‘Charles” and therefore thought it could be him. Great detective work. She has admitted to posting things without reading them and her PI skills are as bad as her understanding of psychology. I can’t find a place where she admits to posting something she didn’t read, but I believe I have seen her say that about things she posted on LISK.com. I did find a comment where Too Close mentions this. It’s one of those comments MM7 didn’t let through on her blog:

LISL Too Close MM7 blog

No one should be relying on her for information.

All this being said, I will miss Mysterymom7. She was played hard, but reading back over her blog, she may have got what she had coming. People told her they were playing her, she just didn’t let those comments through. In fact she didn’t let a lot of comments through that could have helped others to see the game better. Too Close From Home had made several comments to counter things being written there, but again Cristin just didn’t let those comments through.

I’m a little puzzled to why you let me see all the comments you didn’t let through Cristin, you must have known that I would read them and wonder why you didn’t let them through. Just shows again how you just don’t quite grasp things and again why people need to be careful before they believe anything you “find” using your “detective skills”.

Did she really delete her blog this time? As I always say time will tell. But Cristin don’t be mad at me for being honest about what I have read and been told. You think what I am doing is just as bad or worse than your blog and it might get people hurt. Your blog was based on game and lies and did hurt people. I don’t see my blog that way. So we will just have to agree to disagree. But I will take some time and think about whether to continue on without Joey’s whack pack in tow.

If this is good-bye Cristin, then I’ll leave you with some Eminem lyrics. I’m not sure why so many Eminem lyrics were left on your blog, but I think these fit here:

I guess we are who we are
Headlights shining in the dark night I drive on
Maybe we took this too far

Putting LISK.com To Rest

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Is there more we could learn from LISK.com? Yes, but this would take the site owner to help with the who’s who as well as more screen names coming forward to give their experiance (not talking about sock puppets, real readers with no agendas). But it’s there (some of it at least) if any of you want to search the LISK.com archives and see what can be seen. I put up enough of the comments that I think we understand Fluke’s agenda and how the game began.

It stepped into high gear when Mysterymom7 appeared and started a blog og her own. So we will head there next to see the crap Joey put up using questionable screen names, we’ll get into the 69 IP and a few others that kept Cristin guessing but almost never understanding. We’ll see how the screen names crossed over to my blog once I began. Most of all will ask Cristin some tough questions about what she claimed was fact though she now says was just speculation.

But not till after the holidays. This blog is on vacation. I have to properly end the “red and black” blog, it has been in limbo for way to long. Plus I have something more personal I’m working on, hopefully some of you will follow me there (not you Dorothy).

So, HAPPY HOLIDAYS! Go spend it with your family and loved ones. Enjoy them. Remember all of those who are no longer with us this holiday season and celebrate with those who are.

Who Is PS149?

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That’s one of the few newer LISK.com threads I can find. But it is right around when I started reading there. Going back and rereading these comments I see them a lot different the second time.  Sorry to drag it back out Linda, but honestly, knowing you now, knowing what was going on better, I don’t see your comments as so harsh. What they were doing was unforgivable. Hopefully these games did not hurt the case in the long run and LE will solve these murders. I do not live there so it is not as personal as it is for all of you, I see that now, back then I did not see that. And what Flukeyou and MM7 were doing here was again, unforgivable.

I put this up not to see more BS Fluke was peddling, or how MM7 was buying it and helping to spread it, or that emotions were high and things were getting ugly (all that’s just a repeat of what had been going on all along). I put this up to take a closer look at exactly what PS149 was saying. With all the fake ones on mine and MM7’s blog it’s easy to forget what the real PS149 was saying.

And in my opinion they were just trying to expose Joey, much like Too Close and a few others. They don’t seem to care about what you have to say too much Cristin, they just thought you sounded crazy, and you have told me that you yourself know you sounded this way. So they were never the enemy you made them and definitely not CPH. I had once thought it was Jen, but this is because of all the fake PS149s. Sorry Jen, I can see this is not you. Probably owe a bigger apology to PS149.

So as I see it, PS149, the real one, was not a part of the game. Just someone trying to help expose it. I guess they are from websleuth and are still there so any of you who still go there feel free to tell them I said thank you and to answer their email.

I had had a couple comments on my blog that I had forgoteen about. Here they are:

LISK PS149 zero

This came from a seperate email and IP address then all other “PS149” posts, and at the time I thought it might be the real one. Now that I have access to MM7’s old blog (thank you Cristin) I was able to search that Ip address and Email address through the hundreds of comments (man there are so many) and it only came back with one:

LISK PS149 MM7 blog

My point to all this? Not much other than to say I do not think the real PS149 was involved in this game Fluke and the others were playing. It wasn’t Jen or Dorothy or Cristin or Joey. I don’t even think it was Micheal D. as some want me to believe (remember the confession left in this blogs comments? It was left in my ” For PS149″ post: https://liskdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/for-ps149/.

Whoever it was knew Joey for what he is and helped expose it. Again, thanks PS149.

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