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It’s been one year since I started this blog. So it seems right to end it today. This year has been a crazy one for me. I discovered things on the internet I knew where there, but did not know or understand how they end up connecting themselves. Entangling people in a true web of webs. I’ve said all I am going to say about those things here. As some of you know I continue to blog about the different things this year has led me to on the internet. And I’m only getting started there: http://zerodinh.wordpress.com/

I started this blog with a disclaimer that explained I would not be sleuthing any case, or trying to solve any murders. This blog was about the people I read commenting on a site called Longislandserialkiller.com and I have blogged more than enough about them. I’d like to end this blog on the subject I have stayed away from, the bodies found at and around Oak Beach.

We know a lot about some of them and nothing about others. We know that most of them were what they call Craigslist prostitutes or call girl or what ever name you want to give it. We know that some had hard lives from early on and that some were taken advantage of by those around them. We know that some of them had drug addictions or money problems. We know some of their names:

Maureen Brainard-Barnes

Melissa Barthelemy

Shannan Gilbert

Megan Waterman

Amber Overstreet

And thanks to their loved ones we know how beautiful each one was, how generous and caring they were. We know some had children they loved. We know they had dreams of bettering their lives.  We know some were artistic, some wrote lyrics and poetry. They were daughters, sisters, mothers, friends… they were all this and a lot more. More than anything anyone can know or say about them. Because of the things we don’t know, and that is what they would have done, what they would have achieved, what they would have become. Their lives were cut short and their story not properly ended. I know that most out there feel as I do, and our hopes and prayers are that at the very least the case will be solved giving the families of the victims answers and everyone piece of mind that those responsible will not be able to continue. It is not the end they deserve but it is an end, and one is needed here.

Joseph Brewer & Michael Pak

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When I first came to read at LISK.com and Catching LISK, I like many others had known about three people mentioned that seemed to be POIs in the LISK case. The doctor, the driver, and the john. 48 Hours and other articles on the case told you all about these three men.  All three seemed supicious, but LE had cleared each from being a suspect. I’m not gonna even try to speak for them. But it’s safe to say that many still have questions about these three men.  My blog and other’s mention the doctor quite a bit. I have not talked much about the other two men though. Until now.

What some don’t realize is that these three men fit into “what happened to Shannan conspiracies” but I’m not sure how much they fit with the others who were found. Especially Mike the driver. If there was any connection to the other’s I would think it would have been discovered long ago and he would have been seen as a suspect. My opinion of course, but he was involved in sex trafficking plain and simple, and if LE thought pressuring him would get some names of people involved they would and, again my opinion, Mike would have given up anyone and anything he knew. So I’m guessing no connection was made. Let’s not forget he was a driver, if there was anything connecting him to others missing or killed we’d know by now, my opinion again. So I never felt much reason to bring up the driver, again, I’m not trying to speak for LE and have no idea what they know or don’t know about the driver, just that I believe if there was anything to link him they would jump on it.

I felt the same about Joseph Brewer as well, but there are a couple of differences there. One, we have stories of parties that get out of control. Mainly from Flukeyou (but I doubt he can be trusted, his stories just seem to be that, stories, right?) but I have read the book “Confessions of the Oak Beach Drifter” and the parties are implied in there as well. Still, once again, if LE could connect Brewer to any of the others that were found near Oak Beach I would think they would have been all over him and that he would have sung like a bird, do I really have to keep saying this is all just my opinion?

Again all three of these POI’s (can I call them that?) depends on what you think happened to Shannan.

If you believe that Shannan’s death was possibly a tragic accident, then if no connection is found between these three and anyone missing or found murdered then they most likely have nothing to do with any of this, well other than the john and the driver, their actions were partly responsible for what happened to Shannan no mater what, in my opinion. If you belive Shannan’s death is connected to the other’s then all of them once again take on suspicions, all of it has been put out there so I don’t need to go over it all. The thing is, once again, if LE could find connections between any of them and the others I’m sure they would have pressured them and one of them would have snapped and come clean or spilled info on someone else. None of this seemed to happen because no arrests have been made. But again, LE, what they know, and how they are handling the case is not anything I know anything about and I am not speaking for them. I just have to believe they are doing everything they can to solve these cases.

So that leaves us with a third possibility (and the one I tend to believe): Shannan’s death was not an accident, but is still not connected to the others. When looking at everything, to me it seems there is more to be answered in Shannan’s death. And if that is true, then all three, the driver, the john, the doctor, once again come up into suspicion as does anyone else in that neighborhood that acts strangely about this case. But do we have conspiracy or coincidence?

I hope and believe these cases will be solved. If conspiracy is involved here, someone will slip and then spill on the others, in fact I think it already would have happened. Coincidence is a much harder thing to understand and work out. Especially when so many seem to be hiding or holding info back or at least pretending to. But I still think it will be worked out.

Out of the three of these men, it is Brewer I question the most, and that’s mainly because of what I read in Lost Girls. He goes on and on about what he knows that can break this case wide open, and yet won’t let you know what that is. This is something I have seen a lot in this case. Everyone’s got the answer, some know who the killer is for sure. Who’s got agenda and who’s just crazy is hard to tell apart. And a lot of you say you have gone to LE with your info, right? Why would anyone hold back info from LE if they thought it would help?

And yet years later and all these connections some of you have made, and still nothing that LE has been able to use.

In my opinion of course.

200+ Comments Concluded

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So let’s get the rest of the 200+ out-of-the-way. Last comments I posted were about the red tags and they were about to get into the viruses. Shall we?

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So by the end of that first summer at LISK.com it’s owner was already thinking about taking it down. Reading through the comments to whether the site should stay or go shows us the site owner had reason to think the site was in trouble and might need to come down. Personal info, viruses, sock puppet screen names, and a neighborhood feud that was getting really nasty. But the site continued, and not much had changed by the time I found it in February of 2013. Some of the screen names were gone and some new ones were now involved but still the same thing. Flukeyou accusing his neighbors of being involved in parties and coverup of murder and yet none of it had yet to pan out. And even now, today, after LISK.com is long gone and the games have been exposed, Junior is still calling out the same crap and not one part of it has been proven and no arrests or confessions from any of the neighbors. And why won’t the neighbors help back up Juniors stories? Because they hate the Scalice’s so much they will let a murdered girls family go without knowing the truth and a killer walk free. That’s right isn’t it Fluke? They have a vendetta against you? Or is it one of your other explanations, that the Doc has something on all of them and they are afraid of him?  How did anyone buy this crap?

Please Fluke, please MM7, please anyone (accept Dorothy) tell me where I have this wrong…

For What It’s Worth

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Before I go on I feel I must make some things understood so that they won’t be misunderstood. Though that may happen any way.

My name is zero and I live in Las Vegas, Nv. Was born and raised in California. I continue this blog because I feel that there was something wrong done by a group of people who have confused the real case of Shannan Gilbert. And whether you believe her death is connected to the others found of Gilgo Beach or not I’m sure you would agree that anything that corrupts one case corrupts them all, I mean even without LISK.com and all the games that came out of it, these cases are confusing and full of questions.

So when I came to LISK.com and MM7’s blog “Catching LISK”, and saw all of this, I felt someone needed to show them what it looked like to an outsider. I immediately got emails and strange comments on the blog. Some people I have proven they are or aren’t who they claim to be, but many others could be anyone.

I believe Flukeyou is Joey Scalice Jr. and this has pretty much been proven to every one by now, but I have yet to talk to him in any way and still unsure if any of the Flukeyou’s commenting on my blog is him.

I believe MM7 is who she was said to be and says she is. Meaning the MM7 posting on my blog is the same one from LISK.com and who created “Catching LISK”.

I believe Jen is who she says she is and also the commenter on my blog under the screen name “jjj”. She may also have wrote on LISK.com as “jj” but she says most of those comments were not her’s but someone using her screen name.

I believe Too Close To Home is who they say they are and the same one who wrote as “Too Close To Home” on LISK.com.

I believe Linda is who she says she is and the same “Linda” who commented on LISK.com.

I believe MDRice is who they say they are and the same “MDRice” who wrote on LISK.com

I believe Fascinated is who they say they are and the same “Fascinated” who wrote on LISK.com

I believe Cheryl is the same one who posted as “Cheryl” and “Cheryl#1” on LISK.com. She has never told me who she is but I believe she had a lot of good insights on who was who on LISK.com  (a few others did as well)

I believe DPH is who she says she is and has a few screen names on my blog. Don’t know if she ever posted on LISK.com but she has a lot to say on Facebook pages dedicated to the victims. Other than that I don’t know what to believe about her.

When a screen name from LISK.com first comes here to my blog, I do my best to make sure they are the same screen name and not someone playing games. The ones I have mentioned are the only ones I am sure of.

This being said, my sources are limited and so is the time I can put into this. Which I feel is still a lot, but maybe not enough to be as quick or as accurate as some of this may need.

And even if I was 100% sure who was who, their true agendas are still unsure to me. I think I get some of what some of you are doing, but nothing is for sure in my mind other than the fact that some really messed up stuff happened here.

I am still here, because of what I have read  in sites, IMs, posts, comments, and emails. I am here because I feel something is wrong and people are being dishonest. I am here because it all seems to be messing with others who do not need this kind of BS disturbing what is already hard enough for them.

I’m here because I feel there is truth to be found in all of this. I may never have it all, and it may not help any of the cases, or the people involved.

But If I do get some truth (which I have gotten to some, right?) and if it does help the cases or people involved (and I truly hope it does) then it will have been worth it.

Bottom line is I am trying to understand all of this. I’m not on anyone’s side but the truth. And if it doesn’t fit your understandings or agendas, if it seems pointless or questionable to you, I’m sorry.

 

Flukeyou

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Doc’s family, canning family, coletti family, Gambino family, Newman family, brewer and Pak have the information of who was really at the party that night….this also starts to explain the actions of these families during the critical period between SG knocking on BB’s door and the police arriving…and why they’re all now tangled together in a web of lies.
 Flukeyou on August 20th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

As you see in the comment above, posted by Flukeyou over a year and a half ago, Fluke was working on more than sleuthing. He seemed to have knowledge about the night Shannan Gilbert disappeared. It also seemed  known to other posters that Flukeyou was or had been a resident of The Oak Beach private community where Shannan had disappeared from. And many posters would ask for info from him. A poster by the name of Truthspider agreed with Flukeyou on his suspiciousness of the neighbors in this community. And they both seemed to narrow in on one main suspect:

Brendan

Dear Santa,

When the LISK is arrested please make the news headlines read:

“Hero with real world foster care experience blows whistle on fraudulent Doctor and his phony halfway house.”

“Shannan Gilbert awarded a posthumous Prezidential Medal of Freedom for fraud detection and preventing countless more deaths.”

etc.

Thanks,
truthspider

The above post was made under the name Brendan, the supposed “real” name of a sleuther from Websleuths.com. It was posted in December of 2011 and one of the only comments made on it was from Flukeyou:

I concur….

Flukeyou on December 18th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

It seems that the 2 sites ( longislandserialkiller.com and Websleuths.com) were about to connect, at least with a few sleuthers, and a POI (person of interest) was beginning to become an ongoing debate and the start off much mud-slinging and airing of dirty laundry.

It would become clear that both Flukeyou and Truthspider believed Dr. Hackett to be Shannan’s killer and that many of the Oak Beach residents knew and were in someway helping to cover it up.

So here we have 2 sites and 2 screen names that are about to start circumstances a rollin’ to where both sites would have to remove posters, change how they run, and one of the sites would eventually shut down. And right away some posters thought somtething was up…

Hmmmm….this ‘Truthspider’ guy from WEBSLEUTHS, aka “Brendan Murphy”…the one with the Obsession with PH….
You mean to tell me there’s ANOTHER ONE who has an Obsession with PH….???

There is one here that is Obsessed with the DR. as well, AND
I will go so far (as some others would agree) as to FRAME him for something he DID NOT DO.

Hmmmmmm…….As you say Cheryl, on here, People can be-whoever they want.

Deee on January 1st, 2012 at 2:31 am

And there were “others” that agreed…